[mpeg-OTspec] Proposed mandatory and optional features of the Composite Font format

[Daniel Strebe]

Thanks, Ken. I would be interested to study example of conditions in which a composite font could not function if parts of its recipe were ignored because of limitations on the consuming side.

Regards,
- daan Strebe


On 09/08/04 10:18, "Ken Lunde" <lunde at adobe.com> wrote:

daan,

I will be interested to hear what ideas others have with regard to the
notion of mandatory. In the end, I think that the sole purpose of
mandatory is to describe the conditions under which a Composite Font
cannot function. The format itself can describe some aspects of this,
such as the requirement to include at least one <ComponentFont>
instance, but there may be value in giving some of this power to the
creator. But, I agree that this can become the proverbial rope that
can be used to hang oneself, meaning that it can be abused if not used
wisely.

Also, while we are on the topic of the format and syntax, one strong
suggestion that I'd like to relay to the AHG is that the XML use a
namespace. This comes from someone else at Adobe, and I second the
recommendation.

Regards...

-- Ken

On 2009/07/30, at 18:39, Daniel Strebe wrote:

>
>
> Mikhail:
>
> Thank you for the thoughtful proposals. I agree with Ken
> Lunde's responses (so I will not echo them) with the exception
> of this matter:
>
> Before drilling into exact syntax of such properties, I would like
> to discuss one particular issue. I believe some of the optional
> properties can be safely ignored by the composite font consumers
> without breaking the intent of the composite font producer, while
> other optional properties should cause the consumers unable to honor
> their semantics to skip containing elements entirely.
>
> I do not think the specification should give creators authority that
> can be so easily thwarted. Many consumers will choose to
> ignore "mandatory" directives because those directives
> do not suit their purposes. Meanwhile providing a mechanism to
> specify mandatory elements will merely encourage "control-
> freak" creators to mark everything in sight
> "mandatory". Neither we, as the owner of the
> specification, nor the creator, whose intent is expressed by the
> recipe, has any practical ability to "enforce" what is
> called "mandatory". Should we not stick with the policy
> that anything stated in the recipe expresses the creator's
> intent? And that elements absent in the recipe signal no particular
> intent? A mandatory signal is redundant, and redundancies are to be
> avoided, if for no other reason than that a consumer will digest a
> recipe and immediately find itse! lf confused over elements present
> but not marked mandatory. Are the unmarked elements actually
> optional? If so, why are they present?
>
> Instead of a "mandatory" flag, should we not allow the
> producer to rank elements according to how important they are? How
> is "mandatory" versus not mandatory anything more than
> a polarized ranking of "not so important" to
> "critical"? And once we ask that question, can we not
> see that the creator cannot assess the needs of the consumer and
> really ought not to be trying? The creator can state its intent
> already without assigning metrics of gravity to the elements. Its
> own intent is all it knows. The consumer knows how well it can honor
> that intent and is obliged to honor it to the extent that it can.
> Surely no one's legitimate interests are served by handing
> creators a mechanism for bullying consumers into rejecting what
> might be a perfectly serviceable interpretation of a recipe just
> because the creator suffers delusions of power.
>
> I think we should analyze explicit scenarios that require the
> "mandatory" mechanism before we inject it into the
> specification. I would be very surprised if we found any scenarios
> that really benefit from it.
>
> Regards,
>
> - daan Strebe
> Senior Computer Scientist
> Adobe Systems Incorporated
>
>
> On 09/07/29 22:42, "Mikhail Leonov" <mleonov at microsoft.com <mailto:mleonov%40microsoft.com> > wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
> I would like to provide an update on mandatory and optional elements
> in the composite font format.
>
> First, some background. During phone conference meetings that
> preceded the formal creation of this working group, parties involved
> concluded that, due to the diversity of font handling platforms and
> programming interfaces in the industry, it was not practically
> feasible to agree on a single predefined set of composite font
> elements and properties that would express existing font selection
> models and approaches. Instead, it was recommended to give composite
> font producers and consumers flexibility to introduce optional
> properties that wouldn't necessarily be used or even understood by
> all conformant consumers. At the same time, semantics of such
> properties should be defined as clearly as possible, so that an
> implementation that chooses to suport them can do so in a way
> compatible with other consumers and producers.
>
> In addition to such optional properties, there are core pieces of
> the composite font format that conforming implementations must
> interpret correctly to provide the minimum degree of interoperability.
>
> The purpose of this email is to start creating a list of mandatory
> and optional features in the composite font format.
>
> The format is assumed to be based on the latest composite font
> syntax proposal uploaded to this AHG discussion list by Ken Lunde.
> Since I don't recall us discussing the root element mandated by the
> XML specification, I propose introducing a root element called
> CompositeFont.
>
> Here is a complete composite font file that prescribes the consumer
> to use font "Times New Roman" for all Unicode characters and all
> languages:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <CompositeFont>
>    <ComponentFont Target="Times New Roman"/>
> </CompositeFont>
>
> I propose that a conforming composite font consumer must:
> 1. Recognize and parse basic XML structure as outlined above,
> including the standard XML header and the root element CompositeFont.
> 2. Reject composite font files that violate the standard XML
> specification.
> 3. Recognize, parse, and interpret all possible valid values for the
> following elements and attributes (these elements and attributes are
> furthermore called mandatory):
>    a) ComponentFont element and its Target attribute. The
> interpretation of the Target attribute value is allowed to vary
> between consumers depending on the target environment font grouping
> model. For example, a consumer may be using OpenType Preferred
> names, Win32 names, Postscript names, WWS names, or some other font
> selection model that may not even be OpenType based. However, the
> consumer must use a font model that supports at least one font
> format and assigns name values to font files that conform to
> supported font formats. In addition, the consumer must parse comma-
> separator characters that can be used to separate multiple font
> names inside one Target attribute value, omit leading and trailing
> whitespace characters from font name values, and honor the escape
> sequence that encodes the comma character itself if it appears as a
> part of the font name. I propose double comma ",," as an escape
> mechanism for such cases.
>    b) Encoding element and its Target and Original attributes. These
> are described in Ken Lunde's email, and I won't repeat the semantics
> here. Similar to the Target attribute semantics, the interpretation
> of Unicode characters supported by a font may vary depending on the
> target environment font model. For example, a consumer may prefer
> one cmap table format to another. However, the consumer must use a
> font model that provides an ability to obtain Unicode coverage for
> all supported font formats.
>    c) Language element and its Target attribute. I would like to
> change the Target attribute values from the original definition
> provided by Ken, which used ISO 639-2/T language codes, to a
> definition that uses IETF language tags, as specified by RFC 4646.
> The key difference is ability to differentiate between multiple
> character sets for the same language, for example Simplified Chinese
> ("zh-Hans") vs. Traditional Chinese ("zh-Hant"). The conforming
> implementation must properly match language tags. There is a couple
> of interesting corner cases here that I would like to discuss in
> more detail - exact rules for matching language tags that are
> related to each other, and handling of empty language tags and cases
> where the language infomation is not available to the font selection
> algorithm.
> 4. Reject composite font files that don't contain at least one
> ComponentFont elements.
> 5. Interpret composite font elements in the order they appear in the
> font file.
>
> In addition to the mandatory elements and attributes described
> above, there is a large group of elements and attributes that are
> considered optional, such as scale, common baseline and height
> metrics, the display name of the composite font itself, font style
> coercion, digital signature enforcement, optical size, required font
> version, font checksum validation, and others.
>
> Before drilling into exact syntax of such properties, I would like
> to discuss one particular issue. I believe some of the optional
> properties can be safely ignored by the composite font consumers
> without breaking the intent of the composite font producer, while
> other optional properties should cause the consumers unable to honor
> their semantics to skip containing elements entirely. An example of
> the former class is handling of Scale attribute of the ComponentFont
> entry on platforms that don't support font scaling. An example of
> the latter class is required font version range. If the consumer is
> unable to extract a version from the font, then it is unable to
> honor the producer intent, and a font entry should arguably be
> skipped altogether. I propose that the composite font format should
> contain provisions that enable consumers to tell whether
> encountering an unknown attribute should cause the element it
> belongs! to to be ignored or not.
>
> Please note that the proposals above are by no means final, and any
> suggestions, corrections and additions are very welcome.
>
> Thanks in advance, and best regards,
> Mikhail Leonov
> Microsoft
>
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