Panose issue status? (Re: [mpeg-OTspec] AHG activity kick-off)

Levantovsky, Vladimir vladimir.levantovsky at monotypeimaging.com
Mon Jul 23 17:14:33 CEST 2012


Hi John,

Thank you for pointing out the encoding issues with the Panose text. We fixed the encoding (so that the text should now be fine) but I doubt we can modify the text of the specification at will since Monotype doesn't own the copyrights to the Panose spec.

Thank you,
Vlad


> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hudson [mailto:john at tiro.ca]
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 1:22 PM
> To: Michelle Perham
> Cc: suzuki toshiya; Greg Hitchcock; David Lemon; Levantovsky, Vladimir;
> OTspec
> Subject: Re: Panose issue status? (Re: [mpeg-OTspec] AHG activity kick-
> off)
> 
> ichelle Perham wrote:
> 
> > We've had a bit more time to investigate this issue further.
> > Considering the fact that the majority of the new implementations are
> > based on Panose 1.5 - Microsoft agrees with the proposal to remove
> > Panose 1.0 values from OS/2 description and simply reference the 1.5
> spec as is.
> 
> If the version of the Panose 1.5 spec hosted by Monotype Imaging at
> http://panose.com/ is to be the normative reference, then some text
> encoding bugs on that site need to be fixed. These bugs occur in lists
> such as this one:
> 
> 	0-Any
> 	1-No fit
> 	2- Very Light .......WeightRat ³ 35
> 	3-Light....... 18 £WeightRat < 35
> 	4-Thin........10 £WeightRat < 18
> 	5-Book ........7.5 £; WeightRat < 10
> 	6-Medium.......5.5 £WeightRat < 7.5
> 	7-Demi ........4.5 £; WeightRat < 5.5
> 	8-Bold .........3.5 £; WeightRat < 4.5
> 	9-Heavy....... 2.5 £; WeightRat < 3.5
> 	10-Black....... 2.0 £; WeightRat < 2.5
> 	11-Extra Black....... WeightRat < 2.0
> 
> Personally, even presuming the encoding is fixed, I think the
> selections would be clearer if presented in English sentences, e.g.
> 
> 	6-Medium...... WeightRat greater than 5.5 but less than 7.5
> 
> 
> JH
> 
> 
> PS. On the subject of Panose and Monotype, as I recall from a
> conference conversation many years ago Monotype developed a tool for
> automatically generating correct Panose values for fonts (I believe
> Dave Opstad coded it). Since having accurate Panose information in
> fonts is of general ecological benefit, I wonder if Monotype might be
> interested in open sourcing or otherwise making that tool available?
> 
> 
> 
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