[MPEG-OTSPEC] Reminder of the upcoming document submission deadlines and AHG recommendations (was RE: WD for review (was: AHG Kick-off - New Mandates!))

Sun Dec 20 21:38:40 CET 2020

I'd like to see the opsz update go into off :)

On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 2:31 PM Levantovsky, Vladimir <
Vladimir.Levantovsky at monotype.com> wrote:

> Hello Peter, all,
>
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> In addition to currently suggested changes for inclusion into the OFF
> Working Draft AMD2, I suggest that we should also consider adding the
> updated “Optical size recommended implementation” as part of the amendment:
> https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/typography-issues/issues/310#issuecomment-708643967
>
> For reference, this has been the subject of the extensive discussion on
> the CSS WG list: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/4430
>
>
>
> I added a new issue 38: Proposed Optical Size recommended implementation
> changes <https://github.com/MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat/issues/38>
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> Vladimir
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> *From:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec-bounces at lists.aau.at> * On Behalf Of *Levantovsky,
> Vladimir
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2020 7:26 PM
> *To:* Peter Constable <pgcon6 at msn.com>; mpeg-otspec <
> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>
> *Subject:* Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] Reminder of the upcoming document submission
> deadlines and AHG recommendations (was RE: WD for review (was: AHG Kick-off
> - New Mandates!))
>
>
>
> Thank you Peter, and yes – these changes can be easily incorporated in the
> current amendment.
>
> Vladimir
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> *From:* Peter Constable <pgcon6 at msn.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2020 4:22 PM
> *To:* Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky at monotype.com>;
> mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>
> *Subject:* RE: Reminder of the upcoming document submission deadlines and
> AHG recommendations (was RE: WD for review (was: AHG Kick-off - New
> Mandates!))
>
>
>
> While there were many changes in OpenType 1.8.4, the combined changes
> wouldn’t be appropriate for an amendment. But there were only a limited
> number of technical changes, and the key ones will already be incorporated
> into Amd 2 as part of the changes for COLR v1. So, I think it makes sense
> to purse Amd 2 focusing primarily on changes for COLR v1.
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> There are a couple of other very scoped technical changes that I think it
> would also make sense to include in Amd 2: updating the script tags and
> language system tags to keep those in sync with OT 1.8.4. I’ve opened
> issues for each of these, with proposed text for the WD.
>
>
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> Issue 36: Proposed for AMD 2: update 6.4.1 Script tags
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/G1R5CQW2m6i6vOJmIxIfcs>
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> Issue 37: Proposed for AMD 2: update 6.4.2 Language tags
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/dig8CR60nPhr4Ey8HNUzNO>
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> Peter
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> *From:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec-bounces at lists.aau.at> *On Behalf Of *Levantovsky,
> Vladimir
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 1:24 PM
> *To:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>
> *Subject:* [MPEG-OTSPEC] Reminder of the upcoming document submission
> deadlines and AHG recommendations (was RE: WD for review (was: AHG Kick-off
> - New Mandates!))
> *Importance:* High
>
>
>
> Dear AHG members,
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>
>
> As we are approaching the next SC29/WG3 (MPEG-Systems) meeting to be held
> in January (11-15), I’d like to remind us all of the document submission
> deadlines that we need to adhere to, especially in consideration of the
> upcoming holiday season:
>
> -          early deadline for document registration of new input
> contributions: Dec. 30th, 2020;
>
> -          deadline for document submission: Jan. 4th, 2021.
>
>
>
> We also need to consider the fact that the document we are working on is
> the second amendment (AMD2) of the 4th edition OFF text, and that
> according to ISO/IEC rules, this is the last time we would be able to
> publish an amendment document – any future changes would have to be made as
> part of the 5th edition OFF as a new work item. Taking this limitation
> into account, I would like us to consider the following:
>
> 1)      The amendment document we are preparing right now is still a
> Working Draft that has not been finalized. Even though the main goal of the
> amendment was to upgrade the capabilities and functionality of the COLR
> table (introducing COLR v1 support), it doesn’t have to be limited to one
> particular part of the standard – the AMD2 can be developed and published
> as a single combined document that introduces changes to different parts of
> the standard.
>
> 2)      The timeline of the amendment has not yet been finalized. It is
> up to us to recommend to the WG what should happen next and when;
> therefore, if we want to add additional changes (either relevant to COLR
> v1, or something that implements changes in different parts of the OFF
> standard [in addition to COLR v1] – we can easily do so by raising
> additional issues for discussion in the AHG, and submitting additional
> input contributions with proposed changes if we reach a consensus. This is
> relatively easy to do for as long as the current document status remains a
> Working Draft, but once we finalize the WD text and promote it to the next,
> Committee Draft, stage – the document will be published for approval under
> ballot and any additional changes can only be made via ballot comments as
> proposed changes to the existing Committee Draft text, no new amended
> content could be introduced at that time.
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> In light of the topics discussed above, we should decide whether we want
> to accelerate the publication timeline of the COLR v1 changes by submitting
> additional input and finalizing the AMD2 text promoting it to the CD stage
> at the WG meeting in January, or whether we would like to introduce
> additional changes as part of the AMD2, and, therefore, keep it as a
> Working Draft document at least until the next WG meeting in April 2021 –
> this is totally up to us to decide.
>
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> I’d recommend that we should consider delaying the progression of the WD
> to the Committee Draft _*only*_ if we would like to introduce any
> additional _*substantive changes*_ that would have an impact on
> implementations. There are many changes that we have recently discussed,
> and many more editorial changes have been suggested that would improve the
> content and clarity of the OFF text – these would be best implemented when
> we begin the 5th edition OFF work.
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> Any thoughts / suggestions?
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>
> Thank you,
>
> Vladimir
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>
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> *From:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec-bounces at lists.aau.at> *On Behalf Of *Levantovsky,
> Vladimir
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2020 5:11 PM
> *To:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>
> *Subject:* [MPEG-OTSPEC] WD for review (was: AHG Kick-off - New Mandates!)
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Following up on my AHG new mandates announcement last week – the Working
> Draft of the future amendment [based on the COLR v1 contribution to the WG]
>  is now available for public review (see attached). Certain items are
> highlighted with my editorial notes – these parts would benefit from
> additional contributions to extend and/or revise the text (as the case may
> be).
>
>
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> With the GitHub now available for AHG to use, I suggest that new comments
> on the working draft text should be filed as issues with “amendment” label
> attached. Once we have these new issues resolved, we will prepare and
> submit the new input contribution(s) to the WG with our recommended
> revision proposals.
>
>
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> The next WG meeting will be virtual, happening in mid-January, and due to
> extra time needed to prepare for the virtual meeting and due to end of the
> year holiday period, the WG decided to impose early deadlines for
> registration and submission of new input contributions. Respectively, these
> deadlines are Dec. 30, 2020 for document registration, and Jan. 4th, 2021
> for document upload. Please keep this in mind as we have only a couple of
> months left to discuss and propose changes.
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> Any new items (those that are not currently part of the amendment) can
> also be brought up for discussion, according to the mandate #2. It is
> possible and quite likely that the working draft amendment document will
> remain in the Working Draft stage even after the January WG meeting – I’d
> like to make sure that we prioritize quality of the spec and content
> completeness over expediency in finalizing this amendment.
>
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> Thank you,
>
> Vladimir
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>
>
> P.S. The draft amendment is prepared against the 4th edition ISO/IEC
> 14496-22 document, available for download free of charge from ISO publicly
> available standards:
> https://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/c074461_ISO_IEC_14496-22_2019.zip
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/nwZCCW6lvQhjrONvInQLn4>
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> *From:* Levantovsky, Vladimir
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2020 10:37 AM
> *To:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>
> *Subject:* AHG Kick-off - New Mandates!
>
>
>
> Dear AHG members,
>
>
>
> Following the conclusion of the SC29/WG3 meeting, I am pleased to announce
> that the AHG on Font Format have been reestablished with the following
> mandates (see SC29/WG3 N0074 for details):
>
> *Name*
>
> *AHG on Font Format*
>
> *Mandates*
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> 1. Review and discuss the text of Working Draft amendment of ISO/IEC
> 14496-22:2019_AMD2 to improve and update COLR v1 table / data structure
> descriptions.
>
> 2. Discuss clarifications and updates to other parts of the OFF
> specification, and submit AHG recommendations for proposed changes to
> address identified technical issues.
>
> 3. AHG may discuss technical issues using GitHub MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat
> repo (https://github.com/MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/fNdxCYEnxyt3VMjPUZjV5c>)
>
> *Chairmen*
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> Vladimir Levantovsky
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> *Duration*
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> Until 2nd (January 2021) SC29/WG3 (MPEG Systems) meeting
>
> *Reflector(s)*
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> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at; https://github.com/MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/fNdxCYEnxyt3VMjPUZjV5c>
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> Based on the contributions submitted to the WG meeting, the WG
> recommendation was to start a new amendment process for ISO/IEC
> 14496-22:2019 AMD2, that would give us an opportunity to update COLR table
> description and introduce other technical changes. I am very pleased to
> announce that the WG recognized our desire to use GitHub repo as a new
> venue for technical discussions – as you can see from the mandate
> description, this is now explicitly mentioned both in the mandates section
> and as our new communication channel. Please keep in mind that the GitHub
> repo is intended to be used for discussing technical issues only, the
> administrative matters of the AHG and the discussions related to AHG
> recommendations will be conducted on the AHG email list. I also would like
> to remind you that according to the ISO JTC1 rules, the discussions on the
> AHG forums should be limited to what is specifically authorized by the
> current mandates.
>
>
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> As a reminder, the membership in this AHG is open to public and is subject
> to the rules and principles outlined in the ISO Code of Conduct (
> https://www.iso.org/files/live/sites/isoorg/files/store/en/PUB100397.pdf
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/E0iQC31pvysmDqWVHp2Qcc>) and
> Declaration for Participants in ISO Activities (
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> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/0SPyC5yrxRh0kEwOIV8Vge>).
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Vladimir
>
>
>
> P.S. The document SC29/WG3 N0074 that lists all the AHG established at the
> SC29/WG3 meeting is public, I will share the link to it on this list as
> soon as it’s available. The text of the working draft amendment of ISO/IEC
> 14496-22:2019 will be made publicly available for review as soon as the
> document is ready.
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