[MPEG-OTSPEC] Agendas and minutes of the Font AHG

[MURATA Makoto]

I have two concerns.

First, do P-members of SC29 not belonging to the
Font AHG have access to important information?
If nothing except balloted texts is available, national
bodies are not well informed.  For example,
was India well informed when some decisions
in the Font AHG are very relevant to them?

Second, how consensus has been declared in
the Font AHG?

> [Note:  Consensus is defined as general agreement, characterised by
> the absence of sustained opposition to substantial issues by any
> important part of the concerned interests and by a process that
> involves seeking to take into account the views of all parties
> concerned and to reconcile any conflicting arguments.  Consensus need
> not imply unanimity.  (ISO/IEC Guide 2:1996)]

If few agendas and minutes are available and
everything is recorded as part of AHG reports,
(and when some members of the AHG
still oppose to "consensus"), I think that it
is hard to defend consensus in the past.

Regards,
Makoto



2020年10月1日(木) 4:24 Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky at monotype.com
>:

> AHG on Font Format conducts its business online via email list and shared
> documents (either proposals shared by their authors or WG public output
> documents shared with AHG members for review. The AHG reports are provided
> for each WG meeting and summarize AHG activities.
>
>
>
> The AHG typically does not conduct any work via meetings (unless this is
> specifically indicated as part of the mandate), so the fact that you
> couldn’t find any “minutes” or “resolutions” isn’t a surprise – by the very
> nature of our work we submit recommendations to the WG (as part of the AHG
> report), but we do not make resolutions (like WGs do).
>
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Vladimir
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec-bounces at lists.aau.at> *On Behalf Of *MURATA
> Makoto
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:59 PM
> *To:* mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>
> *Subject:* [MPEG-OTSPEC] Agendas and minutes of the Font AHG
>
>
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> I am investigating the email archive available
>
> at https://lists.aau.at/pipermail/mpeg-otspec/
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/I0l-CDk2rQtBjx7gfW7Vbd/>.
>
>
>
> I searched for "agenda", "minutes", and "report".
>
> They appear in the email archive several times.  A
>
> few of them are available as attachments.
>
> But the others are no longer available at the
>
> Yahoo ML archive.
>
>
>
> There are some AHG reports (as part of emails),
>
> but they do not look like minutes or resolutions
>
> of the AHG.   As the convenor of SC34/WG4,
>
> I write reports but they are not considered as
>
> authoritative documents.
>
>
>
> The document archive of WG11 at https://isotc.iso.org
> <https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/DrorCER2v0uW1qwRswIBOY>
>
> is also gone.
>
>
>
> I will contact the SC29 secretariat and try to find
>
> more.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Makoto
>
>
>
> 2020年9月27日(日) 17:44 MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt at asahi-net.or.jp>:
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> The document repository of SC29 has records of ballots
>
> in the past.  I downloaded the summaries of 16 ballots
>
> related to OFF and had a quick look at them.
>
>
>
> All countries except US have always said
>
> YES without comments.  There are a few
>
> exceptions, but they are one-paragraph
>
> editorial comments attached to Yes.
>
> It is only US that has made non-trivial comments.
>
>
>
> Although there appear to be different opinions around
>
> color fonts, I find no discussion documents in the SC29
>
> document repository about them.  I might be
>
> missing something since the document archive of
>
> WG11 is not available now.  I will contact the SC29
>
> committee officer about this.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Makoto
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Makoto
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Regards,
Makoto
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