[MPEG-OTSPEC] Scheduling Zoom meeting to discuss new proposals and AHG recommendations

Josh Hadley johadley at adobe.com
Thu Jul 13 19:44:05 CEST 2023

Hi Dave & AHG participants,

Adobe will have at least one person attending (actually, presenting at) TypeCon who might be able to attend an OFF meeting in person. I don’t currently have plans to be there in person. I expect that any such meeting will be hybrid and not F2F-only.

I checked with our folks in Portland, and it is true that we have a facility there, but it sounds like it would not be well-suited for the proposed meeting. So, if you want to proceed with plans to host at the Google facility that would be great.


From: Dave Crossland <dcrossland at google.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 at 2:49 PM
To: Josh Hadley <johadley at adobe.com>
Cc: mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at <mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>
Subject: Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] Scheduling Zoom meeting to discuss new proposals and AHG recommendations

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Hi Josh

On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 1:01 PM Dave Crossland <dcrossland at google.com<mailto:dcrossland at google.com>> wrote:

Any chance you or anyone from Adobe will be attending the TypeCon event in August

It looks like Rod and I have travel approved by our VP to meet in Portland in August.

I reached out to Neil Summerour at SoTA but haven't heard back, but since Typecon isn't in a hotel venue this year, I am guessing they may not be able to offering a large meeting room space anyway.

Will Adobe be able to host a meeting? I see from a quick websearch there is an Adobe office in Portland (1500 SW First Ave) :)

There's also a modest Google office (555 SW Morrison St Ste 500 Floors 4 & 5), and Rod and I can easily host a max of 20 people (22 including us) and after that I'll need to do more organization.

In case we want to use the Google office option, I made a form to collect information; we'll need to pre-register everyone who will attend in a guest kiosk system. That needs names and emails that match photo ID, and to show the photo ID to a receptionist.


We would also like to remind folks that the format has already adopted CFF2 which uses cubics and can already address > 16-bit glyph indices.

Sadly since I see color variable fonts as the future, I am not sure where CFF2 and SVG-in-OT will go. Would there be a CFF3 that supports color and the things under discussion here, or, would cubic-in-glyf plus support for PS hinting be effectively CFF3?

How does GPOS/GSUB work for CFF2 fonts' 70,000th glyph?

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