[MPEG-OTSPEC] Proposed Adoption of the Online Standards Development Platform

[MURATA]

Ken,

Are such characters used in the CD?

regards,
Makoto


2024年9月16日(月) 12:23 Ken Lunde <lunde at unicode.org>:

> Murata-san,
>
> Another consideration is the extent to which the toolchain of ISO/CS can
> handle characters outside of basic Latin. I suspect that it cannot handle
> arbitrary characters in the ISO/IEC 10646 standard, and as of Unicode
> Version 16.0 that was released less than a week ago, there are now 154,998
> characters. While I cannot speak about MS Word, mainly because I use the
> app only when necessary, PDF has an advantage in that it can embed the
> glyphs from the fonts that are referenced in the authoring app.
>
> Regards...
>
> -- Ken
>
> > On Sep 14, 2024, at 22:29, MURATA via mpeg-otspec <
> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at> wrote:
> >
> > The latest CD has 1000 pages.  Can the toolchain of ISO/CS handle 1000
> pages?  We should ask them.  If it cannot, they might be willing to accept
> a Word document and a PDF.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Makoto
> >
> > 2024年9月15日(日) 11:56 MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com>:
> > Dear colleagues,
> > I would like to propose that we transition from using Word to the Online
> Standards Development (OSD) platform provided by ISO and IEC.
> > For more information, please visit:
> > https://www.iso.org/OSD
> > Several projects, such as the upcoming version of Schematron (ISO/IEC
> 19757-3), have successfully adopted the OSD platform and are finding it
> highly effective.
> > While some may suggest that we continue using Word, generating PDF
> documents, and submitting them to the ISO Central Secretariat (ISO/CS), it
> is my understanding that ISO/CS is increasingly reluctant to accept PDF
> submissions.
> > In exceptional cases, such as with ISO/IEC 29500-1 (a document nearly
> 4000 pages long), there may be valid reasons to persuade ISO/CS to accept
> PDFs. The sheer size of such documents can overwhelm their current
> toolchain (eXtyles and Typefi), which struggles with large files. However,
> unless we have a similarly compelling reason, ISO/CS is likely to refuse
> any PDF submissions and decline to publish standards.
> > Another option is to submit Word files and request ISO/CS to generate
> PDFs. However, this approach has led to numerous issues, with project
> editors frequently encountering significant discrepancies between their
> expected layouts and the final PDFs generated by ISO/CS. Many editors
> within JTC1 have shared frustrating experiences due to these problems.
> > ISO/CS does not directly convert Word documents into PDFs. Instead, they
> transform Word files into STS (XML) format, which discards much of the
> original formatting. They then generate PDFs from these STS documents. I’ve
> attached a diagram illustrating this process, which is based on discussions
> with an ISO/CS Editorial Program Manager.
> > I understand any hesitation about this transition, but I have not heard
> of any serious complaints regarding the OSD platform.
> > Regards,
> > Makoto
> >
> >
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