[MPEG-OTSPEC] Minor ballot comment - change a field from 16 to 24 bits

[mpsuzuki]

Dear Behdad,

> The proposal is to change the DataOffset to 24bit only in the newly proposed `GVAR` table. We are not touching the existing `gvar`.

Oh! I slipped to check the section which 7.2.2.2 belongs to...
Many thanks to your clarification!

Regards,
mpsuzuki

On 2025/04/03 3:02, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 7:46 AM mpsuzuki via mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at<mailto:mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at>> wrote:
> Dear Liam,
> 
> I apologize to ask a few questions to your post in 2 months ago...
> 
> As far as I could check the current specifications, the field DataOffset
> has been 16-bit for a long time, in Microsoft OpenType spec, Apple TrueType
> spec, and current 14496-22.
> 
> https://learn.microsoft.com/ja-jp/typography/opentype/spec/otvarcommonformats
> https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TrueType-Reference-Manual/RM06/Chap6gvar.html
> (in Apple's spec, offsetToData in glyphVariationData structure might be the
> field we discuss)
> 
> It is reasonable attitude to care about the overflow of this field in 24-bit
> GID world, but simple change of this field to 24-bit could be incompatible
> with existing implementations. At least, the proposed change in the draft
> ballot comment does not mention about a technique to keep the compatibility
> with existing fonts & font drivers. Maybe I'm missing something, please
> let me ask a few questions.
> 
> 1) Adding a new version of "gvar" table whose DataOffset is 24-bit is bad option?
> Also, reservation of a bit in "flags" field of "gvar" header might be another
> option.
> 
> The proposal is to change the DataOffset to 24bit only in the newly proposed `GVAR` table. We are not touching the existing `gvar`.
> 
> behdad
> 
> 2) Some fonts with 24-bit DataOffset are already shipped to the market?
> 
> 3) Some existing implementations are already capable to handle 24-bit DataOffset?
> HarfBuzz was already mentioned, but Behdad commented that it is not enabled
> by default.
> 
> Regards,
> mpsuzuki
> 
> On 2025/02/06 12:02, Liam R. E. Quin via mpeg-otspec wrote:
>> In 7.2.2.2 GlyphVariationDataHeader, there is a field called
>> DataOffset; this is defined to be 16-bit. In testing, people building
>> actual fonts found this overflowed and needed to be 24 bits,
>> so we have a proposed change, Change dataOffset from Offset16 to
>> Offset24.
>>
>> My understanding is that this has already been implemented in harfbuzz,
>> since its an ISO draft and since it was necessary...
>>
>> No other problems were found so far.
>>
>> The PDF file enclosed says the same thing, using the ISO template for
>> comments (numbered as if made sa a US comment; the Canadian mirror
>> committee meeting is tomorrow)
>>
>> liam
>>
> 
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