From eb2mmrt at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 00:28:27 2026
From: eb2mmrt at gmail.com (MURATA)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 08:28:27 +0900
Subject: [MPEG-OTSPEC] Status of DIS Ballot Comments Discussion for Open
 Font Format
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Vladimir,

Hello.

Do you have any news about the FDIS ballot?  Is it now clear why the ballot
hasn?t been issued yet?

Regards,
Makoto

2025?12?12?(?) 19:51 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com>:

> The FDIS text was submitted by SC29 Secretary to ISO EPM on October 7
> (more than two months late) - I am not aware of any reason for that delay.
> As of right now, the FDIS is in EPM hands - I don?t know why the ballot
> hasn?t been issued yet.
>
> Thank you,
> Vladimir
>
> On Dec 12, 2025, at 7:03?AM, MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Vladimir,
>
> It appears that the FDIS ballot has not started yet.  I wonder why it has
> been delayed and also wonder if there are any ongoing discussions about
> it.  Do you have any new information?
>
> Regards,
> Makoto
>
> 2025?9?16?(?) 5:53 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com>:
>
>> > You wrote "the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final
>> approval on Sep. 7" but this has not happened yet.  Are there any
>> discussions between ISO and SC29?
>>
>> I am not aware (and haven't been a party) of any additional discussions
>> held since the last SC29/WG03 meeting in July, where the DIS comments were
>> discussed and the text updated accordingly. The final edited version of the
>> DIS was sent to ISO EPM and SC29 Secretariat on July 28.
>> According to the ISO project portal, the DIS text was approved for
>> registration as FDIS on Aug. 7, and I am puzzled as to why the FDIS
>> approval ballot hasn't been issued yet - it was supposed to happen on or
>> before Sep. 7.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vladimir
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 3:43?PM MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your detailed reply.  I just attended an SC34 plenary in
>>> Seattle. In connection with the ongoing revision of OOXML, SC34 and ISO
>>> discussed more than a year ago how closely the final publication should
>>> follow the Directives, Part 2. Although producing a fully compliant text
>>> was not feasible, we reached agreement on the necessary adjustments, and
>>> SC34 revised the text accordingly. However, as publication approaches, ISO
>>> has requested a Word version and now appears ready to introduce additional
>>> changes beyond what was agreed.
>>>
>>> You wrote "the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final
>>> approval on Sep. 7" but this has not happened yet.  Are there any
>>> discussions between ISO and SC29?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Makoto
>>>
>>> 2025?8?28?(?) 9:25 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> Apologies for a delayed response - I was traveling last week.
>>>> The WG break-out meeting report summarizing font related discussions is
>>>> available at
>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/m73810-v1-m73810.zip
>>>> .
>>>> The "Disposition of Comments" document is available for review at
>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/MDS25324_WG03_N01577.zip and
>>>> can also be viewed at
>>>> https://sd.iso.org/documents/open/ab834af5-952d-4c07-91ce-c8522ffd503b
>>>> The text of the FDIS is available for download at
>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/MDS25325_WG03_N01578.zip
>>>> and can also be accessed at
>>>> https://sd.iso.org/documents/open/8d807e86-2dca-42dc-bf5f-804299cb20b4
>>>> According to ISO project status details tracker (
>>>> https://sd.iso.org/projects/project/87621/overview), the full report
>>>> on DIS text approved for registration as FDIS was circulated on Aug. 7,
>>>> while the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final approval on Sep.
>>>> 7.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Vladimir
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:44?PM MURATA via mpeg-otspec <
>>>> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could let me know what the outcome of the
>>>>> Font Format Break-out Group meeting was, and the current status of the
>>>>> ballot comment resolution process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your kind assistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Makoto Murata
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> mpeg-otspec mailing list
>>>>> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at
>>>>> https://lists.aau.at/mailman/listinfo/mpeg-otspec
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>> ?? ?
>>>
>>
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From vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com  Fri Jan 30 19:41:10 2026
From: vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com (Vladimir Levantovsky)
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2026 13:41:10 -0500
Subject: [MPEG-OTSPEC] Status of DIS Ballot Comments Discussion for Open
 Font Format
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Hello Murata-san,

No updates yet on FDIS ballot status. The last status update I heard back
in December was that our EPM editor was on medical leave due to surgery - I
do not have any additional details.

Regards,
Vladimir


On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 6:29?PM MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Vladimir,
>
> Hello.
>
> Do you have any news about the FDIS ballot?  Is it now clear why the
> ballot hasn?t been issued yet?
>
> Regards,
> Makoto
>
> 2025?12?12?(?) 19:51 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com
> >:
>
>> The FDIS text was submitted by SC29 Secretary to ISO EPM on October 7
>> (more than two months late) - I am not aware of any reason for that delay.
>> As of right now, the FDIS is in EPM hands - I don?t know why the ballot
>> hasn?t been issued yet.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Vladimir
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2025, at 7:03?AM, MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Vladimir,
>>
>> It appears that the FDIS ballot has not started yet.  I wonder why it has
>> been delayed and also wonder if there are any ongoing discussions about
>> it.  Do you have any new information?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Makoto
>>
>> 2025?9?16?(?) 5:53 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> > You wrote "the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final
>>> approval on Sep. 7" but this has not happened yet.  Are there any
>>> discussions between ISO and SC29?
>>>
>>> I am not aware (and haven't been a party) of any additional discussions
>>> held since the last SC29/WG03 meeting in July, where the DIS comments were
>>> discussed and the text updated accordingly. The final edited version of the
>>> DIS was sent to ISO EPM and SC29 Secretariat on July 28.
>>> According to the ISO project portal, the DIS text was approved for
>>> registration as FDIS on Aug. 7, and I am puzzled as to why the FDIS
>>> approval ballot hasn't been issued yet - it was supposed to happen on or
>>> before Sep. 7.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Vladimir
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 3:43?PM MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for your detailed reply.  I just attended an SC34 plenary in
>>>> Seattle. In connection with the ongoing revision of OOXML, SC34 and ISO
>>>> discussed more than a year ago how closely the final publication should
>>>> follow the Directives, Part 2. Although producing a fully compliant text
>>>> was not feasible, we reached agreement on the necessary adjustments, and
>>>> SC34 revised the text accordingly. However, as publication approaches, ISO
>>>> has requested a Word version and now appears ready to introduce additional
>>>> changes beyond what was agreed.
>>>>
>>>> You wrote "the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final
>>>> approval on Sep. 7" but this has not happened yet.  Are there any
>>>> discussions between ISO and SC29?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Makoto
>>>>
>>>> 2025?8?28?(?) 9:25 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com
>>>> >:
>>>>
>>>>> Apologies for a delayed response - I was traveling last week.
>>>>> The WG break-out meeting report summarizing font related discussions
>>>>> is available at
>>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/m73810-v1-m73810.zip
>>>>> .
>>>>> The "Disposition of Comments" document is available for review at
>>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/MDS25324_WG03_N01577.zip and
>>>>> can also be viewed at
>>>>> https://sd.iso.org/documents/open/ab834af5-952d-4c07-91ce-c8522ffd503b
>>>>> The text of the FDIS is available for download at
>>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/MDS25325_WG03_N01578.zip
>>>>> and can also be accessed at
>>>>> https://sd.iso.org/documents/open/8d807e86-2dca-42dc-bf5f-804299cb20b4
>>>>> According to ISO project status details tracker (
>>>>> https://sd.iso.org/projects/project/87621/overview), the full report
>>>>> on DIS text approved for registration as FDIS was circulated on Aug. 7,
>>>>> while the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final approval on Sep.
>>>>> 7.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Vladimir
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:44?PM MURATA via mpeg-otspec <
>>>>> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could let me know what the outcome of
>>>>>> the Font Format Break-out Group meeting was, and the current status of the
>>>>>> ballot comment resolution process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for your kind assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Makoto Murata
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> mpeg-otspec mailing list
>>>>>> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at
>>>>>> https://lists.aau.at/mailman/listinfo/mpeg-otspec
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> ?? ?
>>>>
>>>
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From eb2mmrt at gmail.com  Sat Jan 31 02:16:30 2026
From: eb2mmrt at gmail.com (MURATA)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2026 10:16:30 +0900
Subject: [MPEG-OTSPEC] Status of DIS Ballot Comments Discussion for Open
 Font Format
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Vladimir,

The limit date for the publication of this IS is 2026-08-11, and the FDIS
ballot requires two months.  Will this project be cancelled if the FDIS
ballot does not start by 2026-06-11?

Regards,
Makoto

2026?1?31?(?) 3:41 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com>:

> Hello Murata-san,
>
> No updates yet on FDIS ballot status. The last status update I heard back
> in December was that our EPM editor was on medical leave due to surgery - I
> do not have any additional details.
>
> Regards,
> Vladimir
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2026 at 6:29?PM MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Vladimir,
>>
>> Hello.
>>
>> Do you have any news about the FDIS ballot?  Is it now clear why the
>> ballot hasn?t been issued yet?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Makoto
>>
>> 2025?12?12?(?) 19:51 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com
>> >:
>>
>>> The FDIS text was submitted by SC29 Secretary to ISO EPM on October 7
>>> (more than two months late) - I am not aware of any reason for that delay.
>>> As of right now, the FDIS is in EPM hands - I don?t know why the ballot
>>> hasn?t been issued yet.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Vladimir
>>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2025, at 7:03?AM, MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> Vladimir,
>>>
>>> It appears that the FDIS ballot has not started yet.  I wonder why it
>>> has been delayed and also wonder if there are any ongoing discussions about
>>> it.  Do you have any new information?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Makoto
>>>
>>> 2025?9?16?(?) 5:53 Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> > You wrote "the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final
>>>> approval on Sep. 7" but this has not happened yet.  Are there any
>>>> discussions between ISO and SC29?
>>>>
>>>> I am not aware (and haven't been a party) of any additional discussions
>>>> held since the last SC29/WG03 meeting in July, where the DIS comments were
>>>> discussed and the text updated accordingly. The final edited version of the
>>>> DIS was sent to ISO EPM and SC29 Secretariat on July 28.
>>>> According to the ISO project portal, the DIS text was approved for
>>>> registration as FDIS on Aug. 7, and I am puzzled as to why the FDIS
>>>> approval ballot hasn't been issued yet - it was supposed to happen on or
>>>> before Sep. 7.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Vladimir
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 3:43?PM MURATA <eb2mmrt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your detailed reply.  I just attended an SC34 plenary in
>>>>> Seattle. In connection with the ongoing revision of OOXML, SC34 and ISO
>>>>> discussed more than a year ago how closely the final publication should
>>>>> follow the Directives, Part 2. Although producing a fully compliant text
>>>>> was not feasible, we reached agreement on the necessary adjustments, and
>>>>> SC34 revised the text accordingly. However, as publication approaches, ISO
>>>>> has requested a Word version and now appears ready to introduce additional
>>>>> changes beyond what was agreed.
>>>>>
>>>>> You wrote "the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final
>>>>> approval on Sep. 7" but this has not happened yet.  Are there any
>>>>> discussions between ISO and SC29?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Makoto
>>>>>
>>>>> 2025?8?28?(?) 9:25 Vladimir Levantovsky <
>>>>> vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies for a delayed response - I was traveling last week.
>>>>>> The WG break-out meeting report summarizing font related discussions
>>>>>> is available at
>>>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/m73810-v1-m73810.zip
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> The "Disposition of Comments" document is available for review at
>>>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/MDS25324_WG03_N01577.zip and
>>>>>> can also be viewed at
>>>>>> https://sd.iso.org/documents/open/ab834af5-952d-4c07-91ce-c8522ffd503b
>>>>>> The text of the FDIS is available for download at
>>>>>> https://dms.mpeg.expert/doc_end_user/documents/151_Daejeon/wg11/MDS25325_WG03_N01578.zip
>>>>>> and can also be accessed at
>>>>>> https://sd.iso.org/documents/open/8d807e86-2dca-42dc-bf5f-804299cb20b4
>>>>>> According to ISO project status details tracker (
>>>>>> https://sd.iso.org/projects/project/87621/overview), the full report
>>>>>> on DIS text approved for registration as FDIS was circulated on Aug. 7,
>>>>>> while the FDIS text is expected to be registered for final approval on Sep.
>>>>>> 7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Vladimir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2025 at 10:44?PM MURATA via mpeg-otspec <
>>>>>> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would appreciate it if you could let me know what the outcome of
>>>>>>> the Font Format Break-out Group meeting was, and the current status of the
>>>>>>> ballot comment resolution process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your kind assistance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Makoto Murata
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> mpeg-otspec mailing list
>>>>>>> mpeg-otspec at lists.aau.at
>>>>>>> https://lists.aau.at/mailman/listinfo/mpeg-otspec
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> ?? ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>>  --
>>> ???????????
>>> ?? ?
>>>
>>>
>>
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