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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=Section1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Ken,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This type of issue came up in some of my recent conversations as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Conceptually, recipe creators want to specify some additional properties about a component font, such as its location. For some scenarios a simple Boolean flag is sufficient, while for other scenarios something like a URL or an internal resource path is necessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To give an example of the latter, a document could embed 2 versions of the same font and use different resource paths, for example /Resources/Fonts/1/arial.ttf and /Resources/Fonts/2/arial.ttf.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Given there is a large number of potential methods for storing font file locations, I’d like to suggest for this property to be opaque and optional, akin to a hint rather than a strict directive. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>How does a new string property LocationHint sound?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mikhail Leonov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Microsoft<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Lunde<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mpeg-OTspec] Toward a Composite Font format specification<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>All,<br><br>Slight topic deviation ahead...<br><br>I was in a meeting this morning, and its discussions led to an idea <br>for another <ComponentFont> attribute that we have not yet considered. <br>Under some circumstances, especially when dealing with embedded fonts, <br>it may be useful to specify whether the font is embedded (in a file <br>that references the Composite Font or the Component Font) or available <br>on the device (a "device" font). This, of course, would be optional, <br>but I guarantee that some producers will want to specify this.<br><br>I am not sure about the best way to characterize this, in terms of an <br>attribute name, but perhaps we can state that all <ComponentFont> <br>instances are "device fonts" unless an "IsEmbedded" boolean flag is <br>specified.<br><br>I would welcome any thoughts about this.<br><br>-- Ken<br><br>On 2009/08/26, at 12:20, Thomas Phinney wrote:<br><br>> My first assumption would be that all scaling should include scaling<br>> metrics, though I am mindful of the issues Karsten brings up.<br>><br>> T<br>><br>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Daniel Strebe<<a href="mailto:dstrebe%40adobe.com">dstrebe@adobe.com</a>> <br>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Thomas,<br>>><br>>> Thanks for chiming in. To clarify, do you mean to advocate scaling<br>>> horizontally within the same design space when you mention faux <br>>> small caps?<br>>> (Meaning, without increasing the glyph advance width, escapement, and<br>>> kerning values?)<br>>><br>>> Regards,<br>>><br>>> ¯ daan Strebe<br>>> Senior Computer Scientist<br>>> Adobe Systems Incorporated<br>>><br>>><br>>> On 09/08/25 21:51, "Thomas Phinney" <<a href="mailto:tphinney%40cal.berkeley.edu">tphinney@cal.berkeley.edu</a>> <br>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I'd advocate keeping the three different scaling factors (overall, X<br>>> and Y). I can honestly imagine plenty of use cases for them, both in<br>>> traditional and non-traditional cases.<br>>><br>>> One use for asymmetric X/Y scaling is in manufacturing small caps. <br>>> One<br>>> could use a composite font mechanism to build faux small caps,<br>>> possibly scaled slightly so as to be slightly wider than strictly<br>>> proportional scaling. Ditto for creating numeric (or alphabetic)<br>>> inferiors or superiors. Using the composite font mechanism would <br>>> allow<br>>> for taking the base glyphs from a heavier weight of the "same"<br>>> typeface....<br>>><br>>> cheers,<br>>><br>>> T<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>><br>><br>><br>> -- <br>> "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick <br>> themselves up<br>> and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."<br>> - Sir Winston Churchill<br>><br>><br>> ------------------------------------<br>><br>> Yahoo! Groups Links<br>><br>><br>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>