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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link="#1E66AE" vlink="#1E66AE"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Vladimir,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is a specific process to set up an RA. Nothing terrible (we’ve done several times now), but the process goes up to JTC1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Leonardo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Levantovsky, Vladimir<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 22 November, 2010 22:31<br><b>To:</b> Peter Constable; John Hudson<br><b>Cc:</b> Michelle Perham; mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [mpeg-OTspec] RE: Proposed Script tag additions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>John, Peter, all,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I researched the process for establishing a Registration Authority and I doubt that it can be simply done by amendment. We will most likely need an amendment once RA is established but first we need to get there.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>According to ISO/IEC Directives [1] and JTC1 Directives [2], the registration authorities are established during the development of a standard that requires maintaining a registry. Usually, the process of doing this includes issuing a Call for Registration Authority, which establishes a period when interested parties can respond by declaring their interest and intention to serve as RA. The candidates for RA will have to provide certain assurances to ISO in order to qualify – these assurances will essentially be seen as a commitment to provide the needed resources and facilities to support the functions of RA without requiring any financial contribution from ISO/IEC Secretariats or their members.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I do agree that establishing a registry for OT/OFF feature tags would be a good thing, but the process of doing this has to be followed, and we definitely will need to have National Body support for this.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Vlad</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>[1] <a href="http://www.iso.org/sites/ConsumersStandards/en/pdf/ISO%20IEC%20Directives%20Part%201%20-Procedures%20for%20the%20technical%20work.pdf">http://www.iso.org/sites/ConsumersStandards/en/pdf/ISO%20IEC%20Directives%20Part%201%20-Procedures%20for%20the%20technical%20work.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>[2] <a href="http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2489/186491/186605/Jtc1_Directives.pdf?nodeid=3959538&vernum=-2">http://isotc.iso.org/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2489/186491/186605/Jtc1_Directives.pdf?nodeid=3959538&vernum=-2</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Peter Constable [mailto:petercon@microsoft.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> John Hudson; Levantovsky, Vladimir<br><b>Cc:</b> Michelle Perham; mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [mpeg-OTspec] RE: Proposed Script tag additions</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I second this. Several ISO standards allow for registries that allow for data elements to be added to collections without requiring the formal process of an amendment or new addition to the standard. There is no reason why the addition of OT layout tags should require an amendment to ISO/IEC 14496-22. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>(Re a specific point in John’s question: a registry can formally be part of an ISO standard without requiring a new or amended standard to add to the registry.)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I would suggest that, if there is to be an amendment, that one of the revisions should be to clarify that the OT Layout tag registry is exactly that, a registry, and to identify Microsoft as the ISO-sanctioned Registration Authority for this registry, bringing the standard into alignment with industry practice as it has been since the format was first created.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Peter Constable</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a name="_MailEndCompose"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Hudson<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> Levantovsky, Vladimir<br><b>Cc:</b> Michelle Perham; mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [mpeg-OTspec] RE: Proposed Script tag additions</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><p>Vladimir wrote:<br><br>> Also, if we decide to recommend a new amendment for 14496-22, are there <br>> any other proposed changes or new items that we should discuss and/or <br>> consider for inclusion in this future amendment? I would like to ask all <br>> AHG members to please bring your ideas and proposals for the AHG <br>> discussion as part of this new work item.<br><br>This seems a good opportunity to enquire, again, whether the OTL feature <br>tag registry is considered a formal part of the specification, and what <br>the process for proposing and registering new OTL features should be.<br><br>JH<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>