<font face="verdana,sans-serif">That intent seems pretty orthogonal to the labels being used. More importantly, where is that intent communicated in the MIME type proposal as written?</font><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif; ">I also find the attempt to introduce new differences between the OTF and OFF labels rather perturbing.</span></div><div><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, sans-serif">Regards,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="verdana, sans-serif">T</font></div>
<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Levantovsky, Vladimir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@monotypeimaging.com">vladimir.levantovsky@monotypeimaging.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p>David,<br>
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Thank you for your comments. The original intention was that the proposed MIME media types should be assigned depending on a specific type of glyph outlines data contained in a font, with font-ttf being used for TrueType outlines, font-otf for CFF outlines, and font-off as an umbrella type to indentify a font that either has both types of the outlines or where glyph data type may be unknown to an application.<br>
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If you believe this is a reasonable approach, I agree that it should be clarified in more details. We can also consider changing the proposed media types, e.g. to be more specific and use font-ttf, font-cff and font-otf for the purposes outlined above.<br>
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Other opinions / comments?</p><div class="im"><br>
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Thank you,<br>
Vladimir<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
> From: David Lemon [mailto:<a href="mailto:lemon%40adobe.com" target="_blank">lemon@adobe.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 10:34 PM<br>
> To: Levantovsky, Vladimir; OTspec<br>
> Cc: Chris Lilley; Tab Atkins; <a href="mailto:Paul.Irish%40molecular.com" target="_blank">Paul.Irish@molecular.com</a>; Karsten Luecke<br>
> Subject: [mpeg-OTspec] RE: font media types [1 Attachment]<br>
> <br>
> Valdimir et al.,<br>
> I'm unfamiliar with mime type applications, but it seems odd to me<br>
> that this does not indicate what distinctions are meant to be drawn<br>
> between the three proposed types. I'll note that the formats<br>
> referenced by their names do not clarify this; TrueType is a subset<br>
> of OpenType, which is (at least currently) equivalent to Open Font<br>
> Format.<br>
> <br>
> Perhaps another way to ask this is: How would a compliant application<br>
> decide which mime type to assign?<br>
> <br>
> - thanks,<br>
> David L<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> At 10:39 -0700 4/4/11, Levantovsky, Vladimir wrote:<br>
> >Dear all,<br>
> ><br>
> >Please see attached the updated working draft of the ISO/IEC<br>
> >14496-22/PDAM2 with additional Annex E that defines three new media<br>
> >types for fonts:<br>
> >application/font-ttf,<br>
> >application/font-otf, and<br>
> >application/font-off<br>
> ><br>
> >The document needs to be finalized before the end of the week, and<br>
> >your comments are greatly appreciated.<br>
> ><br>
> >Thank you,<br>
> >Vladimir<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> >> From: <a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec%40yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:mpeg-" target="_blank">mpeg-</a><br>
> <a href="mailto:OTspec%40yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a>]<br>
> >> On Behalf Of Levantovsky, Vladimir<br>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 6:39 AM<br>
> >> To: OTspec<br>
> >> Subject: [mpeg-OTspec] FW: font media types<br>
> >> Importance: High<br>
> >><br>
> >> Dear AHG,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Please see below the email from Mr. Karsten Luecke regarding the<br>
> >> registration of the MIME types for various font formats. I brought<br>
> this<br>
> >> subject for consideration of the WG11 meeting, and we have reached<br>
> an<br>
> >> agreement that it would make perfect sense for MPEG to register the<br>
> >> MIME types for OFF and other related font formats (TTF, OTF, ...)<br>
> under<br>
> >> the existing top level MIME "application" tree.<br>
> >><br>
> >> The decision was that the AHG should move quickly to finalize the<br>
> list<br>
> >> of font formats for MIME type registration, suggest the MIME types<br>
> to<br>
> >> apply for, and prepare the text of the application to IANA. At the<br>
> same<br>
> >> time, we will have an extended two-week editing period for the<br>
> existing<br>
> >> Working Draft Amendment so that the proposed MIME types could be<br>
> added<br>
> >> in the text of the amendment before it's submitted for ballot.<br>
> >><br>
> >> We need to proceed quickly - the text of the application including<br>
> the<br>
> >> list of font formats and their corresponding MIME types must be<br>
> >> finalized no later than April 6th.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thank you and regards,<br>
> >> Vladimir<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> -----Original Message-----<br>
> > > From: Karsten Luecke [mailto:<a href="mailto:karsten.luecke%40kltf.de" target="_blank">karsten.luecke@kltf.de</a>]<br>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:52 AM<br>
> >> Subject: font media types<br>
> >><br>
> >> Dear Mr Levantovsky, Mr Atkins, Mr Lilley & Mr Irish,<br>
> >><br>
> >> reading<br>
> >> <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-" target="_blank">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-</a><br>
> >> wg/2010Nov/0051.html<br>
> >> and googling for media types for other font formats, I came across<br>
> >><br>
> >> WOFF<br>
> >> application/font-woff<br>
> >> according to<br>
> >> <a href="http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/spec/#appendix-b" target="_blank">http://dev.w3.org/webfonts/WOFF/spec/#appendix-b</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> <a href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-" target="_blank">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-</a><br>
> >> wg/2010Nov/0051.html<br>
> >><br>
> >> EOT<br>
> >> application/vnd.ms-fontobject<br>
> >> which seems to be fine according to<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/" target="_blank">http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/application/</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> TTF OTF (OFF?)<br>
> >> application/vnd.ms-opentype<br>
> >> according to<br>
> >><br>
> >> <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-" target="_blank">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-</a><br>
> >> us/library/system.io.packaging.packagepart.contenttype.aspx<br>
> >> but also<br>
> >> application/octet-stream<br>
> >> according to<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.jbarker.com/blog/2009/mime-type-css-web-fonts" target="_blank">http://www.jbarker.com/blog/2009/mime-type-css-web-fonts</a><br>
> >> plus a not sufficiently answered request at<br>
> >> <a href="http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-types/2008-" target="_blank">http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-types/2008-</a><br>
> >> August/002066.html<br>
> >><br>
> >> Is there anything reliable as regards TTF OTF OFF?<br>
> >><br>
> >> It were nice to have a single place, like the <a href="http://iana.org" target="_blank">iana.org</a> page, to<br>
> refer<br>
> >> to<br>
> >> when it comes to this.<br>
> >><br>
> >> (The samples on the <a href="http://jbarker.com" target="_blank">jbarker.com</a> make me wonder if the trailing dot<br>
> >> should be included in the AddType declaration or not.)<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best wishes!<br>
> > > Karsten<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> David Lemon<br>
> Sr Manager, Type Development<br>
> Adobe Systems, Inc.<br>
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> <a href="mailto:lemon%40adobe.com" target="_blank">lemon@adobe.com</a><br>
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