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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are a couple of options here: make a new language tag or make a new script tag. In principle, the language is the same, so it is not appropriate to make
a new language tag – I believe that ISO 639-3 registration authority would reject the request. The differences you refer to are in the orthography, and so a script difference is appropriate. There is precedent for script variants to be given distinct script
codes within ISO 15924. See for example Syriac, Han, and Latin:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://www.unicode.org/iso15924/iso15924-en.html">http://www.unicode.org/iso15924/iso15924-en.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would recommend that you check with Michael Everson and prepare a proposal to add a new variant script code for Armenian. The OpenType standard should then
be updated to support the new script code once it becomes available.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think it is important to go through ISO 15924 so that there can be a standard way for a user, web page, or document to identify a preference for this orthography.
If the script code is in 15924 it will be picked up by BCP47. That will mean it can be included in language tags associated with user preferences, web pages, and documents. There may be remaining work for implementers to ensure that the preference expressed
in the BCP47 language tag is available to the rendering engine that would trigger the appropriate lookups in the font.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Hopkins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 28, 2013 12:14<br>
<b>To:</b> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [mpeg-OTspec] Armenian East-West Distinctions [1 Attachment]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt">[<a href="#TopText"><span style="text-decoration:none">Attachment(s)</span></a> from John Hopkins included below]</span></b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">In January, I posted to the Mpeg-OTspec group some communication with Vlad Levantovsky regarding Armenian East-West distinctions we had been grappling with for
years. For convenience, I include it here along with follow up conversation and add some information by my domain expert, George Simper as of today. I hope this will help motivate an additional OpenType language tag for Armenian West.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">John D. Hopkins<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Vlad,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">For many years we have been dealing with distinctions between Armenian East (used inside Armenia) vs. Armenian West (used outside of Armenia, including the US).
There are many differences between these two forms of the language and how they affect font glyphs. Our company's linguists say that Microsoft and Adobe products only use rules corresponding to Armenian West, but our needs are for Armenian East. So we have
built fonts that favor the latter, which we use in-house for our own publications. But we also have older publications that are supposed to use the Armenian West. So we really need both. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">There is no distinction between these two variants of Armenian using ISO 639-3 exclusively. Nor are there really any clear distinctions in OpenType's language
tags. In the OpenType Spec, there is a script tag 'armn' and a language tag 'HYE ' for Armenian. There is also the 'dflt' language tag. We could really use a standard way of handling font glyph differences between these two variants of Armenian within OpenType.
We have observed that under the 'armn' script tag, that both the 'dflt' and 'HYE ' tags use Armenian West rules in Microsoft and Adobe products. Perhaps an additional OpenType tag of 'HYE2' or 'HYEE' could be added that would correspond to Armenian East rules.
(Another possibility is to use 'HYE ' for Armenian East and 'HYEW' for Armenian West. It does not really matter to us, as long there is a clear distinction in the OTSpec). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Again, thank you for your help. We have not known exactly who to turn to, to resolve these issues, though we have brought them up to both Microsoft and Adobe
in years past, unfortunately without success. Maybe you and this group can help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050">John D. Hopkins<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#500050">>>>>>>>> I added further: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222">Note that IANA tags used for BCP-47 language tagging distinguish these two variants of Armenian:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:#222222">Type: variant<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Subtag: arevela<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Description: Eastern Armenian<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Added: 2006-09-18<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Prefix: hy<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">%%<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Type: variant<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Subtag: arevmda<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Description: Western Armenian<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Added: 2006-09-18<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">Prefix: hy<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#222222">%%<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times","serif";color:#222222">(from <a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry" target="_blank"><span style="color:#1155CC">http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry</span></a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times","serif";color:#222222">>>>>>>>>> Vlad responded:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times","serif";color:#222222"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you John,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think the issues you brought up are important to address but they seem to require quite a bit of
further discussions and work. I doubt that simply adding new tags would solve it by itself, we also need to understand the differences between languages and document them properly so that the companies like Adobe, Microsoft, Monotype (and many independent
font vendors) would know what the problems are and how to solve them, what is required of implementations, etc. The lack of this understanding is what may have been hampered the progress on this issue – we definitely need to continue this discussion to find
a solution.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Vlad</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#222222"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">George Simper <br>
<b>Date: </b>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:22:09 -0600<br>
<b>To: </b>"John D. Hopkins" <br>
<b>Subject: </b>Armenian-East and Armenian-West<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The majority of the reference materials were provided in 2007 by by Timo Koponen, our language supervisor
in Europe.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">I. Pronunciation differences</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">As we saw on the site <a href="http://www.omniglot.com/writing/armenian.htm">http://www.omniglot.com/writing/armenian.htm</a>,
the artwork for the two languages is the same, but the pronunciation for the artwork is different. Mostly changes of voiced (dza, ga) to voiceless (tza, ka). See the attached PDF for the various changes in pronunciation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Recommendation for supporting spelling differences</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">With the pronunciation differences, spellings will be different, requiring the need for different
spell checkers and grammar checkers, unique language tags for Armenian-East and Armenian-West will be required in 639-3 to support them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">II. Ligatures</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The biggest problem with ligatures is one glyph, U+0587 </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif";color:black">և</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">,
which is handled quite differently depending on which form of Armenian you are working with. See the tables below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Armenian-East</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Unicode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Artwork<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Lower Case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">0587<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif"">և</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Upper Case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">0535 + 057E<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif"">Ե</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> + </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif"">վ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">0535 + 054E<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif"">Ե + Վ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif";color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">OpenType rules for casing would require that <b>0587</b> be changed to <b>0535+057E</b> for Initial
capitals, and <b>0535+0543</b> for all capitals or small capitals.. It would also require that 0535+057E for Initial capitals, and 0535+054E for All caps and small caps be changed to 0587 when moving back to lower case.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif";color:black"> </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Armenian-West</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Unicode<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Artwork<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">0587<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif"">և</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">0535 + 0582<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif"">Ե + ւ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">ALL CAPS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">0535 + 0542<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif"">Ե + Ղ</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Sylfaen","serif";color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">OpenType rules for casing would require that <b>0587</b> be changed to <b>0535+0582</b> for Initial
capitals, and <b>0535+0542</b> for all capitals or small capitals. It would also require that 0535+057E for Initial capitals, and 0535+054E for All caps and small caps be changed to 0587 when moving back to lower case.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">There are other Armenian ligatures in Unicode (U+FB13..FB17). I have not yet found my documentation
on those glyphs to tell me if they are the same or different in East vs. West.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Additional Documentation Problem</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The Unicode documentation for U+0587 indicates that it is a ligature of U+0587 and U+0582, which is
true for Armenian-West, but not for Armenian-East.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Recommendation for Supporting Ligature Requirements</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Where I have two different sets of instructions for the same Unicode value (U+0587), I must have separate
language definitions for Armenian-East and Armenian-West to properly handle the casing, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Hope this helps<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">George<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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