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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you very much for reviewing the spec and bringing this up for attention.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I guess that whenever a discrepancy is found in an external informative reference – we can always bring that information to the entity that maintains the references
materials and ask for corrections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">>
</span>there a reason the OFF cannot include an explicit normative list of the names for these 258 glyphs?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Other than copyrights issues (if any) – none that I am aware of. If desirable, we could easily publish the glyph list as an annex to the standard, but in order
to be free and clear of any copyrights infringement it would be ideal to have the copyright owner to submit a contribution to ISO with the text in question.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Vlad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Hallissy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 13, 2013 12:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OTspec (mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [mpeg-OTspec] post table: Macintosh "standard" glyph names?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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In the 'post' table, described in section 5.2.9, for both version 1 and version 2 tables there are references to the Macintosh standard glyph set. For example, the Version 1 table description says:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This TrueType-based font file contains exactly the 258 glyphs in the standard Macintosh TrueType font file. See the WGL4.0 Character Set in the informative reference 2 in the bibliography for a list of the Macintosh glyphs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">According to the bibliography:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="bibliography" style="margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in">[2]<span style="font-size:7.0pt">
</span>The WGL4 character set - <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/WGL4.htm" target="_top">
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/WGL4.htm</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately this external reference has a few issues, including:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
Does not give names for name indices 1 or 2<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
Is completely missing name indices 210 and 217<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
Includes name indices 192 and 193 twice (though, fortunately, with identical glyph names), one pair of which points to PUA character codes<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1">
Does not agree with the actual standard Macintosh TrueType file specification for index 172 which Microsoft calls "space" (really??) and Apple calls "nonbreakingspace"<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal">For its part, the Apple specification of these names (see <a href="https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TTRefMan/RM06/Chap6post.html">
https://developer.apple.com/fonts/TTRefMan/RM06/Chap6post.html</a>) has its own problem:<o:p></o:p></p>
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index 1 is given the name ".null" which is not a valid Adobe postscript glyph name -- it should be "null" instead.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is there a reason the OFF cannot include an explicit normative list of the names for these 258 glyphs?<br>
<br>
Bob Hallissy<br>
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