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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I certainly do not claim to represent a universal Japanese feeling on the subject (if one exists), but my years spent in Japan and mi lifelong acquaintance with Japanese friends lead me to say that it probably makes sense to distinguish between</span><span lang=JA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F497D'>漢字</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>(kanji) and</span><span lang=JA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F497D'>仮名</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>(kana) because the former is iconic and the other is syllabic, even though in a normal sentence</span><span lang=JA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F497D'>漢字</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> and</span><span lang=JA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F497D'>仮名</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> are mixed. I am not sure it makes practical sense to use a single word – kana – to indicate two different alphabets which are used to represent the same sounds but with a different context, even though, again, many sentences contain both types of kana next to kanji.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Leonardo <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Learn about <a href="http://www.wimbridge.tv/bridgetplayer/index.html?videoId=56e2ec42c83add010026543d&startFlag&startFlag"><span style='color:#0563C1'>CEDEO</span></a> in a video bridget<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Watch video bridgets of famous cities: </span><span lang=IT style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><a href="http://wimbridge.tv/bridgetplayer/index.html?videoId=5697701216868d0100dd8178&startFlag"><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#0563C1'>London</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>, </span><span lang=IT style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><a href="http://wimbridge.tv/bridgetplayer/index.html?videoId=56cb1f8bc83add01002653cb&startFlag"><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#0563C1'>Madrid</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>, </span><span lang=IT style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><a href="http://wimbridge.tv/bridgetplayer/index.html?videoId=569e3b9116868d0100dd81cd&startFlag"><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#0563C1'>Rome</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>, </span><span lang=IT style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><a href="http://wimbridge.tv/bridgetplayer/index.html?videoId=5696660b16868d0100dd8141&startFlag"><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#0563C1'>Turin</span></a></span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'>Create your own video bridget: <a href="http://www.wimbridge.tv/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://www.wimbridge.tv/</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Lunde lunde@adobe.com [mpeg-OTspec]<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 31 March, 2016 16:58<br><b>To:</b> Leonardo Chiariglione <leonardo@chiariglione.org><br><b>Cc:</b> OTspec <mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: script tags update (Re: [mpeg-OTspec] Digest Number 549)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div id=ygrp-mlmsg><div id=ygrp-msg><div id=ygrp-text><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Leonardo, <br><br>Given that the "kana" script tag collectively corresponds to <span lang=JA style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>ひらがな</span> and <span lang=JA style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>カタカナ</span>, it makes some sense to replace the two entries for one for the collective name, <span lang=JA style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>カナ</span>, being sure to include <span lang=JA style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>ひらがな</span> and <span lang=JA style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>カタカナ</span> in parentheses. <br><br>-- Ken <br><br>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Leonardo Chiariglione <leonardo@chiariglione.org> wrote: <br>> <br>> Why 3 ways? There are only <span lang=JA style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>ひらがな</span> and <span lang=JA style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>カタカナ</span> <br>> Leonardo <br>> <br>> Learn about CEDEO in a video bridget <br>> Watch video bridgets of famous cities: London, Madrid, Rome, Turin <br>> Create your own video bridget: http://www.wimbridge.tv/ <br>> <br>> <br>> From: mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Lunde lunde@adobe.com [mpeg-OTspec] <br>> Sent: Thursday, 31 March, 2016 15:29 <br>> To: OTspec (mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com) <mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com> <br>> Subject: Re: script tags update (Re: [mpeg-OTspec] Digest Number 549) <br>> <br>> <br>> One way to address this is to combine them onto a single entry as follows: <br>> <br>> Kana (Hiragana and Katakana) kana <br>> <br>> Another way is to add the above as a new entry, which allows the "kana" script tag to be found in all three ways: Hiragana, Kana, and Katakana. <br>> <br>> The first one seems simpler, and should not cause confusion. <br>> <br>> -- Ken <br>> <br>> > On Mar 31, 2016, at 3:29 AM, Hin-Tak Leung htl10@users.sourceforge.net [mpeg-OTspec] <mpeg-OTspec-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: <br>> > <br>> > -------------------------------------------- <br>> > On Thu, 31/3/16, mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com<mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com> wrote: <br>> > <br>> > > Re: script tags update <br>> > > Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:45 pm (PDT) . <br>> > > Posted by: "Adam Twardoch (Lists)" adamtwardoch <br>> > <br>> > > 1. I notice that on <br>> > <br>> > > https://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/scripttags.htm <br>> > <br>> > > the script tag "kana" is listed twice, once as "Hiragana" and once as <br>> > > "Katakana". Is this intentional? <br>> > <br>> > It most likely is. Assuming that you may not be familiar with the Japanese <br>> > language, Hiragana and Katakana are the phonetic part of the Japanese <br>> > character set (as opposed to the pictoral Kanji's), one for denoting native <br>> > words and the other for denoting - the sound of - foreign words. Say, an <br>> > English word could be represented by its pronounciation approximation as Katakana's, <br>> > rather than as Latin glyphs, in a written paragraph. <br>> > <br>> > The two are collectively called Kana's . It is often used collectively this way <br>> > to distinguish from the Kanji's, the Chinese-derived pictoral part of the character set. <br>> > Phonetic vs pictoral. <br>> > <br>> > <br>> <br>> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:white'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>