<div dir="ltr"><br><div><span style="font-size:small">The OT language system tag SLA already maps to </span><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5">ISO 639 [scs] (the ISO 639 code for North Slavey).</span><br></div><div><font size="2">Slavey; SLA; scs</font></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><span style="font-size:small">The super-language group of North and South Slavey can be added but it cannot have the tag SLA since that already maps to [scs].</span><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5">In ISO 639, the individual languages [scs] "North Slavey" and [xsl] "South Slavey" are within the macrolanguage [</span><span style="font-size:small">den] </span><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5">"Slave (Athapascan)" </span><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5">(</span><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5"><a href="http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=den">http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=den</a></span><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5">). However [scs] and [xsl] are already mapped to with:</span></div><div><span style="font-size:small;line-height:1.5">Athapascan; ATH; </span><font size="2">apk, apj, apl, apm, apw, nav, bea, sek, bcr, caf, crx, clc, gwi, haa, chp, dgr, scs, xsl, srs, ing, hoi, koy, hup, ktw, mvb, wlk, coq, ctc, gce, tol, tuu, kkz, tgx, tht, aht, tfn, taa, tau, tcb, kuu, tce, ttm, txc</font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><div style="font-size:small"><span style="line-height:1.5">Looking at other languages that could benefit from having language system tags: Fe’fe’ (also know as Nufi) [fmp], </span><span style="line-height:1.5">Medumba</span><span style="line-height:1.5"> </span><span style="line-height:1.5">[byv]</span><span style="line-height:1.5"> and </span><span style="line-height:1.5">Mbembe Tigon [nza] and Mbo [mbo] </span><span style="line-height:1.5">use U+0251. That character’s should be distinguishable from a U+0061, especially in Italic. </span><span style="line-height:1.5">The tags FMP, BYV, MBO and NZA are not assigned and are available in OT v1.7.</span></div><div style="font-size:small"><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:small"><span style="line-height:1.5">Could the following also be added:</span></div><div style="font-size:small"><span style="line-height:1.5"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:small"><div style="font-size:13px;color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif"># Language System; Language System Tag; ISO 639 ID</div></div><div style="font-size:small"><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:small">Fe’fe’; FMP; fmp</span><br></div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Medumba; BYV; byv</div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="line-height:1.5">Mbembe Tigon; NZA; nza</span><br></div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Mbo; MBO; mbo</div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-family:'helvetica neue',helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Cheers,</div></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 24 May 2016 at 15:56 Levantovsky, Vladimir <<a href="mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com">Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">All,<br>
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In order to make it the part of the AHG proposal we need to resolve this now (the input contribution needs to be finalized and uploaded today by midnight UTC).<br>
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Two proposed approaches include:<br>
a) Renaming current entry for Slavey to North Slavey and leaving language tag as is (per the original email from Denis), and<br>
b) Keeping current entry for Slavey as super-language group and [similar to the existing definition for South Slavey] create a new entry for North Slavey with language tag "SCS" [matching the IANA tag 'scs' for North Slavey: <a href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry</a>]<br>
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Vladimir<br>
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:16 PM<br>
To: Denis Jacquerye; OpenType List; OTspec (<a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a>)<br>
Subject: Re: [OpenType] RE: [mpeg-OTspec] Re: Languages tags (Buruchaski & North Slavey)<br>
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On 23/05/16 11:55, Denis Jacquerye <a href="mailto:moyogo@gmail.com" target="_blank">moyogo@gmail.com</a> [mpeg-OTspec] wrote:<br>
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> The OT specifications already have language tags for both South Slavey<br>
> and North Slavey. However North Slavey is being labelled as "Slavey",<br>
> which is ambiguous.<br>
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> The two current language systems are:<br>
> Slavey, SLA, scs<br>
> South Slavey, SSL, xsl<br>
><br>
> The proposal is to have the following instead:<br>
> North Slavey, SLA, scs<br>
> South Slavey, SSL, xsl<br>
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That's what I would suggest if we were starting from scratch, but I'm concerned about changing any of the existing language system mappings.<br>
My preference would be to keep SLA for Slavey, i.e. for a super-language grouping of North and South Slavey, and add a new tag for North Slavey (preferably SCS).<br>
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This matches what I recall doing for some other language systems, where we have both higher level groupings and more granular options. To clarify intent, we could add annotations.<br>
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JH<br>
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