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<p class="MsoNormal">Wow, that’s twice I misread and thought the wording was corrected.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“</span>If a font contains Unicode supplementary-plane characters…<span style="color:#1F497D">”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com>; mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Ballot comments on ISO/IEC 14496-22 OFF Draft International Standard (DIS)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">In #31, the first portion of that sentence “</span>If a font contains characters Unicode supplementary-plane characters …<span style="color:#1F497D">” doesn’t sound right.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I suggested two possible edits – one being “</span>If a font contains Unicode supplementary-plane characters …<span style="color:#1F497D">” where the first occurrence of the word “characters” is dropped, and
the second “</span>If a font contains characters <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">
from the</span> Unicode supplementary-plane characters<span style="color:#1F497D">” with clarifying words added – do you have a preference for either one of these options, or would you rather suggest a different language?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Vlad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Peter Constable [<a href="mailto:petercon@microsoft.com">mailto:petercon@microsoft.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Levantovsky, Vladimir; <a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Ballot comments on ISO/IEC 14496-22 OFF Draft International Standard (DIS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi, Vlad.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">#9) Sounds reasonable.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">#29) Yes, I agree. I would change that sentence to: “This is the standard character-to-glyph-index mapping table for the Windows platform for fonts that support Unicode BMP characters.”<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">#31) Must have been late-night editing on my part. I’d change to: “If a font contains characters Unicode supplementary-plane characters (U+10000 to U+10FFFF), then it's likely that it will also include Unicode BMP characters (U+0000 to
U+FFFF) as well.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">#33) Yes, and I’d suggest similar wording to the above: “This is the standard character-to-glyph-index mapping table for the Windows platform for fonts supporting Unicode supplementary-plane characters (U+10000 to U+10FFFF).”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">#60) I suspect that detail has been in OFF since the first edition. But I was noticed it and had a similar reaction that it was odd in the OFF context. I agree with your change for OFF.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Levantovsky, Vladimir [<a href="mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com">mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 26, 2018 3:10 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Peter Constable <<a href="mailto:petercon@microsoft.com">petercon@microsoft.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Ballot comments on ISO/IEC 14496-22 OFF Draft International Standard (DIS)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you once again for your diligent review of the DIS text.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">After reviewing your proposed comments, I suggest a few minor changes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Comment #9 – clarifying Fixed datatype description: I am not sure that your suggested 2<sup>nd</sup> sentence saying “</span>Fixed values will not be used in the future for any new tables that may be introduced<span style="color:#1F497D">”
is truly needed, since the 1<sup>st</sup> sentence already states that “</span>Only certain tables use a Fixed value for version, and only for reasons of backward compatibility<span style="color:#1F497D">”. What happens in the future is 100% in our control
(as far as not using the “Fixed” datatype is concerned), I am not sure there is a benefit in explicitly stating this. I suggest to simply omit the second sentence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Comment #29 – question regarding using company names vs. platform names: In this comment (and in quite a few places elsewhere in the spec) we sometimes refer to Windows (MacOS, etc.) platform and sometimes use
company names that developed those platforms or contributed a specific technology. I believe that when it comes to technical details, using platform names in most cases would be preferred to using company names – would you agree? In this particular case, would
saying “</span>This is the <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">
Windows</span> standard character-to-glyph-index mapping table for fonts that support Unicode BMP characters<span style="color:#1F497D">” be appropriate, especially since you go on and refer to other “</span>subtable formats for Unicode encoding on the Windows
platform<span style="color:#1F497D">”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Comment #31 – redundant “character” references: suggest to remove and/or change the highlighted portions in “</span>If a font contains
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">characters</span> Unicode supplementary-plane characters (U+10000 to U+10FFFF), then it's
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">like</span> it will also include Unicode BMP characters (U+0000 to U+FFFF) as well<span style="color:#1F497D">” to either
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“</span>If a font contains Unicode supplementary-plane characters (U+10000 to U+10FFFF), then it's
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">likely</span> it will also include Unicode BMP characters (U+0000 to U+FFFF) as well<span style="color:#1F497D">”, or, alternatively, insert
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">“</span>If a font contains characters
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">from the</span> Unicode supplementary-plane characters (U+10000 to U+10FFFF), then it's
<span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">likely</span> it will also …<span style="color:#1F497D">”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Comment #33 – similar question as comment 29 regarding the use of platform vs. company name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Comment #60 – clarifying deprecation of ISO Platform ID: Since ISO standard was initially based on OT 1.4, I think it is redundant to mention a specific timeline that involves OT1.3, and suggest changing the
paragraph to say: “</span>Platform ID 2 (ISO) has been deprecated. It was intended to represent ISO/IEC 10646, as opposed to Unicode. It is redundant, however, since both standards have identical character code assignments.<span style="color:#1F497D">”
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">On a quick glance, the rest of the comments look good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Vladimir<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Levantovsky, Vladimir
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 23, 2018 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Peter Constable'; <a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Ballot comments on ISO/IEC 14496-22 OFF Draft International Standard (DIS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thank you Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I will review and incorporate your comments in the response to the DIS ballot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">All, if you have any comments that have not been submitted yet, please send them to this list. I plan to finalize and submit all comments early next week, to ensure that they will be processed in time for the
next WG11 meeting in April.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Vladimir<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Peter Constable [<a href="mailto:petercon@microsoft.com">mailto:petercon@microsoft.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 23, 2018 2:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Levantovsky, Vladimir; <a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Ballot comments on ISO/IEC 14496-22 OFF Draft International Standard (DIS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve gone through the draft, some portions in detail but not all. Representing Microsoft, I offer the attached as proposed US ballot comments.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Peter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a> <<a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>'Levantovsky, Vladimir' <a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@monotype.com">
vladimir.levantovsky@monotype.com</a> [mpeg-OTspec]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com">mpeg-OTspec@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [mpeg-OTspec] Ballot comments on ISO/IEC 14496-22 OFF Draft International Standard (DIS)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am happy to inform you that the text of the latest draft text of the 4<sup>th</sup> edition OFF standard has been published and available for your review.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The document
<b>w17166</b> was made accessible to general public and can be downloaded from the following page:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thank you all for your contributions to this development!<o:p></o:p></p>
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