<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 8:40 PM Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dcrossland@google.com">dcrossland@google.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">So, while I will respect both ISO and MS as organizations if they continue to not make it easy to contribute changes to their texts as pull requests, if neither ISO or Microsoft do this within a reasonable amount of time, I expect what will happen is that one or more new specification text projects will gather steam, vying to be the highest upstream.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not just that. I'm soon going to declare that HarfBuzz will no longer will try to work with MS/OFF before pushing new file format changes in. So I'm going to start putting in the Layout proposals that Martin Hosken and I wrote back in 2016, and that will trickle down to Android, Chrome, Edge, etc. Then I will sit back and watch as the *very* same people who are dismissing my complaints now will go around shouting that I fragmented the font file format... But I wanted to make sure I say this very, *very*, loud before I do it. Of the four people from this industry who actually get to vote on OFF (Greg, Vlad, Sairus, and David Singer), three are complicit in this issue. So I'm grateful that David is now trying to listen to my arguments.</div><div><br></div><div>b</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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