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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Behdad,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The organization that established this AHG, and is one that is now overseeing its work is ISO SC29/WG3.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The Convenor of the Working Group #3 is Young-Kwon Lim, and the Chair-elect of the SC29 is Gary Sullivan – both are the members of this group. If you follow my
advice and present your evidence to the AHG members, you will get direct line of communication to the “judges” you’re so eagerly expecting to arrive.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Vlad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec-bounces@lists.aau.at>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Behdad Esfahbod<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 21, 2020 11:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dave Crossland <dcrossland@google.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> mpeg-otspec <mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at>; MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt@asahi-net.or.jp><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] Proposal to discontinue the AdHoc Group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:16 AM Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dcrossland@google.com">dcrossland@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:53 AM Behdad Esfahbod <<a href="mailto:behdad@behdad.org" target="_blank">behdad@behdad.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 7:10 AM Dave Crossland <<a href="mailto:dcrossland@google.com" target="_blank">dcrossland@google.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, I see no reason to discontinue the AHG while the possibility that it can be reformed is so clear. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"Is so clear".. as in, the chair continues to completely deny that there is any problem?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Vlad did not deny there is a problem. He asked for you to provide more substance. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">He has continually been praising the AHG as a model of how to do work. I'm not asking he to agree with any of my allegations, but to acknowledge that there are outstanding allegations of problems, and provide me a way to present them to
a fair and impartial group who has authority. He has refused to so far.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm waiting :) <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm waiting for the judge to arrive.<o:p></o:p></p>
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