<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 1:23 PM John Hudson <<a href="mailto:john@tiro.ca" target="_blank">john@tiro.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>[a] [authoring proposals for OFF] needs to be
entirely separate and self-governing, with its own procedures and
tools for communication, collaborative editing, versioning, etc., </div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div> </div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>[b] and only after it has completed its work on specific issues should
it submit, through national standards bodies, proposals to OFF. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>To the first part, I am optimistic that soon enough, <a href="https://github.com/MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat" target="_blank">https://github.com/MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat</a> can work as a place better than <a href="https://github.com/commontype" target="_blank">https://github.com/commontype</a> or <a href="https://github.com/opentype" target="_blank">https://github.com/opentype</a> or <a href="https://github.com/googlefonts/colr-gradients-spec" target="_blank">https://github.com/googlefonts/colr-gradients-spec</a> or <a href="http://github.com/font-text" target="_blank">github.com/font-text</a> or <a href="http://github.com/microsoft/typography-issues" target="_blank">github.com/microsoft/typography-issues</a> or $many_other_examples, for this kind of authoring of proposals. </div><div><br></div><div>To the second part, I think submitting the proposals directly through national standards bodies is a terrible idea, and the AHG has been working really well as a buffy to take proposals from the dispersed expert community and "buffer" them from the ISO processes. </div><div><br></div><div>I think the process documentation that I've proposed at <a href="https://github.com/MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat/pull/5/files?short_path=04c6e90#diff-04c6e90faac2675aa89e2176d2eec7d8" target="_blank">https://github.com/MPEGGroup/OpenFontFormat/pull/5/files?short_path=04c6e90#diff-04c6e90faac2675aa89e2176d2eec7d8</a> and Vlad has collaboratively edited with contributioins from Caleb is demonstrating that this MPEG repo can work. I said the other day it would be nice to move whole-hog from this mailing list to that repo, but I accept that for now there is a 2 step process for the expert community, where proposals are authored "elsewhere" in the first step, and secondly submitted here to this email list. I think ideally the bulk of discussion can (rather, will continue to) happen 'elsewhere' and this 2nd step on this list will hopefully not involve much discussion, and rather the traffic on this list will subside and become focused on voicing approvals or objections to proposals. </div><div><br></div><div>I also am happy that by having that MPEGGroup repo, it is much easier to track what happens in all the other Github repos, if they continue, from a central place. </div><div><br></div><div></div></div></div>