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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22092020 5:25 pm, Behdad Esfahbod
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAF63+7UqJ5_ZPo7TMa8YcNpNDom6KqG057Svny5jvxoq=tenSw@mail.gmail.com">3.
Many of us experts outside Apple/Adobe/Microsoft will join SC29
through our national bodies </blockquote>
<p>Or not.</p>
<p>While there are clearly untenable problems with the AHG, it has,
in all its better moments, functioned as a buffer between
individuals who just want to discuss and collaborate on font
technology and the ISO bureaucracy. And Vlad, in all his better
moments, has done a good job of managing that buffer in a way that
means I don't have to deal directly with the frustrations of
processes that are stuck in the late 20th Century.</p>
<p>There are good reasons why most of us involved in text encoding
opt to work through Unicode channels rather than through our
national standards bodies and the ISO 10646 process. These reasons
are both procedural and also reflected in those aspects of the
Unicode Standard that are extra to the part shared with ISO 10646.</p>
<p>Likewise, for my part, I am interested in free discussion and
open collaboration, and primarily with those parts of text display
and layout standardisation that are extra to the font format, e.g.
shaping consistency, well-defined and testable outcomes for OTL,
new tooling, etc.. That is why I welcome the new W3C initiative as
providing a framework in which to identify projects on which to
collaborate and appropriate channels through which to collaborate.
And, yes, OFF is very likely to be at the end of one or more of
those channels, but I still want a buffer between the
collaboration and the ISO process: just a better one than this
AHG. And my inclination, based on all the discussions here and in
the issues git repo, is that the collaboration part needs to be
moved <i>further</i> away from ISO, not closer. It needs to be
entirely separate and self-governing, with its own procedures and
tools for communication, collaborative editing, versioning, etc.,
and only after it has completed its work on specific issues should
it submit, through national standards bodies, proposals to OFF. If
Behdad and others want to get involved in their national standards
bodies and use that engagement to help get the proposals resulting
from collaboration into the standard, that's great, but the
collaboration itself should be taking place elsewhere.<br>
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JH<br>
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