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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This goes back to my point some weeks
ago that Microsoft's OT spec is the <i>de facto</i> standard. No
font foundry makes fonts available in 'Open Font Format'. No type
tester website shows off 'Open Font Format Layout' features. When
we meet to talk about layout or variations, we don't do so in
reference to OFF.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">So I have a slightly different take on
the opentype-layout and otfontvar lists, which is that they were
explicitly engaged with Microsoft's OT format and really nothing
to do with OFF at all, except insofar as implied by the tacit
agreement that the two specs should remain in sync.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">And, yes, that meant they were
exercises in collaboration that were constrained by what Microsoft
was willing to engage with and implement, which was sometimes a
lot — as with the initial work on variations — and sometimes not
much at all, which left a lot of things undone even when
individuals at Microsoft were in favour of them or had drafted
them as with, e.g. Rob's contributions to resolving axis mapping.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">J.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26092020 12:26 am, Behdad Esfahbod
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">and respond to some of the recent commentary on the
list:
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<div>Since 2014 the <a
href="mailto:opentype-layout@unicode.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">opentype-layout@unicode.org</a>
mailing list has been the <i>de facto</i> embodiment of the
MPEG Open Font Format Ad-Hoc Group.</div>
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<div>Since 2016 the <a href="mailto:otfontvar@unicode.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">otfontvar@unicode.org</a>
mailing list has been the embodiment of the MPEG Open Font
Format Ad-Hoc Group in matters of Variable Fonts.</div>
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<div>So whenever "drafts" came down <i>here</i>, on this list,
for "review", they <b>never</b> had any <i>real</i> chance to
be <b>meaningfully</b> altered through feedback on this list.
What is offered by the chair on this list for review is to
double-check his copy/paste and search/replace work as well as
spot typos and grammatical mistakes and suggest improved
wording. Otherwise the <i>actual</i> work has already
happened in meetings, most of them I / Google(+Facebook)
hosted (opentype-layout + half of otfontvar), the rest Peter /
Microsoft hosted.</div>
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<div>I put together the agenda and chaired the opentype-layout
ones. Peter managed the otfontvar ones. In all cases only
Peter had the pen, and access to make changes appear in
OpenType, and by the time they arrived at this list for
"review" they were well underway to ship in Windows, making
the <i>technical essence</i> unchangeable unless to address
major deficiencies (eg. STAT).</div>
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<a href="http://behdad.org/" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://behdad.org/</a></div>
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