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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 12:45 PM John Hudson wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 07102020 12:59 am, Simon Cozens wrote:<br>
> "we achieved a much better shared understanding of the limitations of <br>
> the processes we need to follow"<br>
><br>
> This suggests that, now we all understand the processes better, there <br>
> is an acceptance of the "need" to follow those processes. I don't <br>
> think this is a fair representation of what has been said on this <br>
> group; there has been considerable discussion of how to work around <br>
> these processes, including a serious proposal to disband the AHG <br>
> altogether. This does not, to me, sound like a group of people which <br>
> has meekly accepted the need to follow the rules. <br>
<br>
I read that sentence differently, but perhaps it could be revised along <br>
these lines to avoid ambiguity:<br>
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    we achieved a much better shared understanding of the limitations<br>
    of the processes that ISO currently requires us to follow<br>
<br>
JH<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">This was indeed the intended meaning of that statement.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Would current objections be resolved if the sentence is revised as John suggested?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Vlad<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
John Hudson<br>
Tiro Typeworks Ltd <a href="https://protect-us.mimecast.com/s/_-aPCzpE57sR49pwtgTB99">
www.tiro.com</a><br>
Salish Sea, BC <a href="mailto:tiro@tiro.com">tiro@tiro.com</a><br>
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