<div dir="ltr">Also, procedurally, please help me understand. I thought you vote with your SC29/WG3 member representative hat on at the WG3 meeting, NOT here on the AHG.<div><br></div><div>So I expect the proposal to be rolled up to WG3, and you can then vote on it there.</div><div><br></div><div>Am I missing something?</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">behdad<br><a href="http://behdad.org/" target="_blank">http://behdad.org/</a></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:50 PM Behdad Esfahbod <<a href="mailto:behdad@behdad.org">behdad@behdad.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:35 PM Levantovsky, Vladimir <<a href="mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com" target="_blank">Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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anywhere. Adobe's code in FreeType is what we have. Re better compression, the existence of CFF in OpenType / OFF is partly why adding quadratic beziers to glyf table has continually not happened.<u></u><u></u></p>
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It's NOT open-source by any means. The sources are not available. That's something that I pointed out directly to Ken Lunde at one of his Unicode Conference presentations. Adobe is clearly aware of it. And I couldn't fix when I was at Google.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">With my SC29/WG3 member representative hat on (and _<i>not</i>_ serving in my capacity as a chair of this AHG) I object to this proposal. With many thousands
of fonts currently deployed, and at least two (or more) different implementations available – this proposal, if considered, would do more harm than good.</span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Okay let me narrow down the proposal to removing CFF2 only.</div><div><br></div><div>Is there any evidence that there are "thousands of fonts currently deployed"? And is there any evidence of at least two different implementations (that is, that are not derived from same Adobe implementation)?</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div>
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