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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Makoto,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I have no doubt that as SC34/WG4 Convener you are very familiar with the ISO/IEC Directives that guide our work. Let me remind you of certain key parts of the document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1. The sub-clause 2.5.6 of <a href="https://www.iso.org/sites/directives/current/consolidated/index.xhtml#_idTextAnchor160">“The ISO/IEC Directives — Part 1: Procedures for the technical work”</a> emphasizes the definition of consensus given by the ISO/IEC Guide:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>“consensus: General agreement, characterized by the absence of sustained opposition to substantial issues by any important part of the concerned interests and by a process that involves seeking to take into account the views of all parties concerned and to reconcile any conflicting arguments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>NOTE Consensus need not imply unanimity.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>In light of this definition and your email below, have you (or anyone else in this AHG) raised a sustained opposition to any of the substantial parts of the proposed updated CFF2 table description? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>2. The <a href="https://www.iso.org/sites/directives/current/consolidated/index.xhtml#_idTextAnchor206">sub-clause 2.10.4 of the same document</a> clearly and unambiguously states that “No more than 2 separate documents in the form of amendments shall be published modifying a current International Standard. The development of a third such document shall result in publication of a new edition of the International Standard.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The AHG recommendation follows this exact guidance suggesting that since two amendments have been completed, a new edition of the International Standard should be started. We further recommend that we should create a working draft – the document defined by the <a href="https://www.iso.org/sites/directives/current/consolidated/index.xhtml#_idTextAnchor150">sub-clause 2.4 of the Directives</a> solely for the purpose of initiating a preparatory stage of the future work and for enabling further technical discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Let me summarize:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Your claim that you “do not see consensus here” goes against the very definition of a consensus, which is described as “the general agreement, characterized _<i>by the absence of sustained opposition</i>_”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Your further clarification of your objection as “purely procedural” has no merit – the AHG recommendation follows the ISO/IEC Directives to the letter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Your stated reason for objection is the lack of technical discussions, yet you seem to be objecting to starting a new edition working draft – the very document that would enable future technical discussions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>However, your objection is duly noted. In order to resolve it, I will modify the language of the AHG report as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>The AHG recommends that if proposed changes of the updated CFF2 table description (m58948) are adopted, the WG should start the new work item by creating a Working Draft of the new OFF 5<sup>th</sup> edition text that would incorporate two prior amendments and newly proposed changes.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Vladimir<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> MURATA [mailto:eb2mmrt@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 13, 2022 5:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] Draft AHG report to WG3<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I object the AHG recommendation,<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>AHG Recommendations<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The AHG recommends to adopt the proposed updated CFF2 table description and start<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>the new work item by creating a Working Draft of the new OFF 5 the edition text that<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>would incorporate two prior amendments and newly proposed changes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>I do not see consensus here.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Makoto<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2022<span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>年</span>1<span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>月</span>14<span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>日</span>(<span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>金</span>) 2:30 Vladimir Levantovsky <<a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com">vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear AHG members,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please see attached for your review the draft text of the AHG report I plan to send to the WG3 for presentation at the upcoming meeting next week. Your comments are appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Vladimir<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>mpeg-otspec mailing list<br><a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at" target="_blank">mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at</a><br><a href="https://lists.aau.at/mailman/listinfo/mpeg-otspec" target="_blank">https://lists.aau.at/mailman/listinfo/mpeg-otspec</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> --<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>慶應義塾大学政策・メディア研究科特任教授</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"MS Gothic"'>村田 真</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>