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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Peter, all,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am not expecting (and will not be supporting) advancing the 5<sup>th</sup> edition WD to CD at this time – there are many other changes that need to be introduced and discussed, and I agree that the document isn’t ready for promotion.<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Re renumbering of subclauses of 6.3.3 – while transforming the 4<sup>th</sup> edition document to the new ISO House Style I discovered that the final published version of 4<sup>th</sup> edition had a bug that caused one subclause to be corrupted, and there were general inconsistencies with how content was structured. The current draft reflects changes I made to fix both editorial issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Re: Amd. 1 changes – I believe I introduced all of them exactly as they are presented, I will have to verify it again – I do have intermediate versions of the WD document stored after every batch of changes was made (Amd.1, Amd.1+2, post-Amd.2).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thank you for conducting a thorough review, really appreciate it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Vlad<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> Peter Constable [mailto:pconstable@microsoft.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 18, 2022 7:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Vladimir Levantovsky <vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com>; 'MPEG OT Spec list' <mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] [EXTERNAL] WD review and input contribution deadline<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Vlad:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I wasn’t expecting to have to review whether this WD accurately reflects changes in Amds 1 and 2. I’m still reviewing Amd 1 and seeing significant issues. So, I hope you weren’t counting on advancing the WD to CD: it’s not ready!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The subclauses of 6.3.3 appear to have been renumbered. I don’t have a problem with that change, but it’s not reflected in the change tracking of the WD.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Re 6.3.3.3.3 (prev. 6.3.3.2): Amd 1 made a revision to this section by inserting paragraphs after the first paragraph. However, it did not alter the first paragraph, nor did Amd 2. So that first paragraph should be as in the 4<sup>th</sup> edn. However, in the WD, that first paragraph appears after the inserted paragraphs and is being deleted. It needs to be restored as the first paragraph.In <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In 6.4.2: Amd 1 replaced the text of the sixth paragraph. This is not reflected in the WD.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>mpeg-otspec <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec-bounces@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec-bounces@lists.aau.at</a>> on behalf of Peter Constable <<a href="mailto:pconstable@microsoft.com">pconstable@microsoft.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, April 18, 2022 at 4:11 PM<br><b>To: </b>Vladimir Levantovsky <<a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com">vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com</a>>, 'MPEG OT Spec list' <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] [EXTERNAL] WD review and input contribution deadline<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Further on 5.5.7 — this time I’ll review the whole thing before sending.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In Amd 1, the text for example 3 was to have the following inserted:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>“The visual result is the same as that shown for Example 2.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>That insertion is reflected in the WD.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>However, the 4<sup>th</sup> edition did not include a figure / visual for the second example. It said, “The diagram is the same as in the above example.” (That’s not great wording since it’s not clear what is meant by “the diagram”.) And Amd 1 did not insert a figure for example 2.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I suggest that a figure should be added for example 2 for clarity. (This is what is done in the </span><a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Ftypography%2Fopentype%2Fspec%2Fsvg%23example-2-glyph-specified-directly-in-expected-position&data=05%7C01%7Cpconstable%40microsoft.com%7Ce6b541ac8c3e45bde88308da218fc027%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637859202845948891%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TmlvCIfD0py6wOqal%2BYiaJuf4v7pVCdK3CG%2BMS8Zejg%3D&reserved=0"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>OT spec</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>.) So, insert at the end of example 2:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#171717'>The following image shows the visual result:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:.5in;background:white;box-sizing: inherit;outline-color: inherit;margin:1rem 0px 0px;overflow-wrap: break-word;font-variant-ligatures: normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: 2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;text-decoration-thickness: initial;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color: initial;word-spacing:0px'><span style='font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#171717'><img border=0 width=145 height=318 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D85381.BB4AFCD0" alt="Colour glyph for lower case i with a gradient fill"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In the text for example 5, there is a typo:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>“The following image illustrate visual results…”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Change “illustrate” to “illustrates”.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>For example 7, Amd 1 inserted the following after the code block:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>“The following image shows the visual result:”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This is missing from the WD.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Peter Constable <<a href="mailto:pconstable@microsoft.com">pconstable@microsoft.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:13 PM<br><b>To: </b>Vladimir Levantovsky <<a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com">vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com</a>>, 'MPEG OT Spec list' <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] [EXTERNAL] WD review and input contribution deadline</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Sent too soon:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The remainder of that portion of the changes in Amd 1 also are not reflected. The second paragraph of 5.5.7 (was 5.5.6) was supposed to be revised. Change</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>“… an OFF font with SVG glyph outlines.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>To </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>“… an OFF font with SVG glyph descriptions.”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Peter Constable <<a href="mailto:pconstable@microsoft.com">pconstable@microsoft.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, April 18, 2022 at 3:10 PM<br><b>To: </b>Vladimir Levantovsky <<a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com">vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com</a>>, 'MPEG OT Spec list' <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] [EXTERNAL] WD review and input contribution deadline</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>It’s evident to me now that the changes reflected in the WD do include changes in Amd 1 and Amd 2.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In Amd 1, the first two paragraphs of 5.5.7 (was 5.5.6) were replaced. However, the first of those paragraphs is still retained in the WD:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>“”SVG glyph descriptions must be defined…”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The content of that paragraph is redundant: the relevant points are covered in 5.5.5. That paragraph should be deleted from the WD.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>mpeg-otspec <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec-bounces@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec-bounces@lists.aau.at</a>> on behalf of Peter Constable <<a href="mailto:pconstable@microsoft.com">pconstable@microsoft.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, April 18, 2022 at 2:30 PM<br><b>To: </b>Vladimir Levantovsky <<a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com">vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com</a>>, 'MPEG OT Spec list' <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [MPEG-OTSPEC] [EXTERNAL] WD review and input contribution deadline</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Vlad:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Do the changes shown by change tracking reflect changes in Amd 1 and Amd 2, or only new changes post Amd 2?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>mpeg-otspec <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec-bounces@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec-bounces@lists.aau.at</a>> on behalf of Vladimir Levantovsky <<a href="mailto:vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com">vladimir.levantovsky@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Monday, April 4, 2022 at 10:41 PM<br><b>To: </b>'MPEG OT Spec list' <<a href="mailto:mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at">mpeg-otspec@lists.aau.at</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] [MPEG-OTSPEC] WD review and input contribution deadline</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear AHG members,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The text of the new, 5<sup>th</sup> edition Working Draft of ISO/IEC 14496-22 “Open Font Format” is available for public review and can downloaded using the following link: </span><a href="https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpeg.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fmpeg_meetings%2F137_OnLine%2Fw21212.zip&data=05%7C01%7Cpconstable%40microsoft.com%7Ce6b541ac8c3e45bde88308da218fc027%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637859202845998888%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=r7U276BScCBvte7BEJrLzKacSelxJIJNZz7V7LF2dbo%3D&reserved=0"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>https://www.mpeg.org/wp-content/uploads/mpeg_meetings/137_OnLine/w21212.zip</span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>. Please also note that any additional changes need to be submitted for discussion at the next WG3 meeting, which will take place on April 25-29. The deadline for submission of the input contributions is April 18<sup>th</sup>.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Vladimir</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>