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    <p>(I don't seem to have got the message from Alexei, just the reply
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                          This is probably both a spec question & a
                          technical question. What is the recommendation
                          for COLRv1 when the rendering target media is
                          not capable of color?</div>
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                  <div>> Are you asking about RGB to gray conversion?
                    There are multiple specs with slightly different
                    formulas and barely noticeable differences, with and
                    without gamma correction. I’m is all pretty
                    arbitrary without settled consensus.  <br>
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    <p>Pardon my French but that is utter hogwash. "without settled
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    <p>The palette colors are explicitly in the sRGB colorspace, and
      thus their conversion to luminance is precisely and unambiguously
      defined. First undo gamma encoding, then take the weighted sum.
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    <p>and</p>
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                  <div>> Gray = 0.3R + 0.6G + 0.1B</div>
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    Large errors, mostly from ignoring the effects of gamma encoding.
    You seem to be vaguely remembering the equation for the NTSC
    colorspace. Please do not spread this sort of easily disprovable,
    wildly incorrect misinformation.<br>
    <p>For sRGB, once transformed to linear-light, the factors are
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    <p>0.21263900587151027 R + 0.715168678767756 G + 0.07219231536073371
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Chris Lilley
@svgeesus
Technical Director @ W3C
W3C Strategy Team, Core Web Design
W3C Architecture & Technology Team, Core Web & Media</pre>
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