<div dir="ltr">I think the use of MultiVarStore needs clarification in VARC doc. Liam, can we work on that?<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">behdad<br><a href="http://behdad.org/" target="_blank">http://behdad.org/</a></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 1:33 PM Behdad Esfahbod <<a href="mailto:behdad@behdad.org">behdad@behdad.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Sounds good. I'll adapt my implementation.<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">behdad<br><a href="http://behdad.org/" target="_blank">http://behdad.org/</a></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 1:31 PM Skef Iterum <<a href="mailto:skef@skef.org" target="_blank">skef@skef.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>I hope not. We discussed that
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      and decided on a convention for putting them in the<br>
      MultiVarStore. That would still be my preference barring some
      reason not to.</p>
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    <div>On 4/23/24 11:51, Behdad Esfahbod
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      <div dir="ltr">Also. Just confirming: are we spec'ing that all
        ConditionValue's in any table should use the GDEF ItemVarStore?
        This becomes important for VARC, which has a MultiItemVarStore,
        but no regular ItemVarStore itself.
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">behdad<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at
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          <div dir="ltr">Hi Skef,
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            <div>I'm implementing the ConditionValue proposal, and have
              some feedback. This is based on the following document:</div>
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            <div>  <a href="https://github.com/adobe-type-tools/opentype-spec-drafts/blob/main/condvalue_spec.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/adobe-type-tools/opentype-spec-drafts/blob/main/condvalue_spec.md</a></div>
            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px"><br>
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            <div>"""</div>
            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px">In
                "FeatureVariations Table", note that if minorVersion is
                0 then only Condition Table version 1 can be used. If
                minorVersion is 1 then Condition Table version 2 can
                also be used.</span></div>
            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px">"""</span></div>
            <div><font face="-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Noto Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, Apple Color Emoji, Segoe UI Emoji" color="#1f2328"><span style="font-size:16px">I highly
                  suggest removing this. The minorVersion is for when
                  new fields are added to FeatureVariations table
                  itself. It should not be relied on for anything else.</span></font></div>
            <div><font face="-apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, Segoe UI, Noto Sans, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif, Apple Color Emoji, Segoe UI Emoji" color="#1f2328"><span style="font-size:16px"><br>
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            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px">"""</span></div>
            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px">Add
                new subpart between "Condition Table Format 1: Font
                Variation Axis Range" and "FeatureTableSubstitution
                Table" with this content:</span><br>
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            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px">"""</span></div>
            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px">Can
                we name Format1 simply ConditionAxisRange? That would go
                better with ConditionValue, ConditionAnd, ConditionOr,
                and ConditionNegate.</span></div>
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            <div><span style="color:rgb(31,35,40);font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,"Segoe UI","Noto Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji";font-size:16px">"""</span></div>
            <div>On page 166: "Within the GPOS, JSTF, GDEF and BASE
              tables, delta-set indices are stored in VariationIndex
              tables."<br>
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            <div>I don't understand this. What is a VariationIndex
              table?</div>
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            <div>Thanks,</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature">behdad<br>
                  <a href="http://behdad.org/" target="_blank">http://behdad.org/</a></div>
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