[mpeg-OTspec] Re: Updates to script and language tags

[John Hopkins]

Vlad,

That would be great! I understand. Thank you! Sorry about the lateness...
and there is just one more thing that you might discuss in your meeting, or
that Microsoft and Adobe should be aware of — regarding Armenian:

For many years we have been dealing with distinctions between Armenian East
(used inside Armenia) vs. Armenian West (used outside of Armenia, including
the US). There are many differences between these two forms of the language
and how they affect font glyphs. Our company's linguists say that Microsoft
and Adobe products only use rules corresponding to Armenian West, but our
needs are for Armenian East. So we have built fonts that favor the latter,
which we use in-house for our own publications. But we also have older
publications that are supposed to use the Armenian West. So we really need
both.

There is no distinction between these two variants of Armenian using ISO
639-3 exclusively. Nor are there really any clear distinctions in
OpenType's language tags. In the OpenType Spec, there is a script tag
'armn' and a language tag 'HYE ' for Armenian. There is also the 'dflt'
language tag. We could really use a standard way of handling font glyph
differences between these two variants of Armenian within OpenType. We have
observed that under the 'armn' script tag, that both the 'dflt' and 'HYE '
tags use Armenian West rules in Microsoft and Adobe products. Perhaps an
additional OpenType tag of 'HYE2' or 'HYEE' could be added that would
correspond to Armenian East rules. (Another possibility is to use 'HYE '
for Armenian East and 'HYEW' for Armenian West. It does not really matter
to us, as long there is a clear distinction in the OTSpec).

Again, thank you for your help. We have not known exactly who to turn to,
to resolve these issues, though we have brought them up to both Microsoft
and Adobe in years past, unfortunately without success. Maybe you and this
group can help.

Best regards,
John D. Hopkins

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Levantovsky, Vladimir <
Vladimir.Levantovsky at monotype.com> wrote:

>  John,****
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> It’s really not up to me to decide (and it is a bit late to change the
> input contribution document I already submitted) but if I do not receive
> any objections from other participants on this list I can definitely
> present your contribution at the meeting next week.****
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> If anyone has any objections or corrections to the list of languages and
> language tags proposed by John – please speak up no later than Monday, Jan.
> 21st. Silence is approval.****
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> *From:* mpeg-OTspec at yahoogroups.com [mailto:mpeg-OTspec at yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *John Hopkins
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 17, 2013 3:20 PM
> *To:* mpeg-OTspec at yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [mpeg-OTspec] Re: Updates to script and language tags****
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> Would Vlad be kindly willing to include these also in his document?
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