[MPEG-OTSPEC] Agendas and minutes of the Font AHG

Dave Crossland dcrossland at google.com
Thu Oct 1 05:19:28 CEST 2020


On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 11:18 PM Dave Crossland <dcrossland at google.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:29 PM Behdad Esfahbod <behdad at behdad.org> wrote:
>
>> As I've noted and others have noted on this list as well, the bulk of the
>> technical discussions of the AHG happen in private Unicode mailing lists
>> and closed meetings.
>>
>
> I had come to the conclusion that if discussions happen elsewhere than
> this list (or maybe this list and the mpeggroup GitHub repo, I'm still not
> 100% clear on that) they are not happening as part of the AHG. That seems
> ipso facto, right?
>
> It is confusing that this list's address is mpeg-otspec, not mpeg-offspec,
> but I understand the otvar and Opentype-layout lists were set up by
> Microsoft, for Microsoft's OpenType format, not for the ISO Open Font
> Format; and similarly Google's COLR v1 repo was set up independently of
> both Microsoft OpenType and ISO Open Font Format. Such efforts happen
> anyway, and in any way their conveners prefer, and are independent of the
> OFF effort. Similarly CommonType. If the conveners wish to contribute their
> output as an input to OFF, they can choose to do so, but they are not
> obligated to do so.
>
> It seems unavoidable to me that the bulk of the technical discussions will
> happen elsewhere, and that the historical activity and technical basis of
> the AHG space is scoped to facilitate the posting of proposals, posting
> (and retract) objections to proposals, and posting affirmations of
> proposals.
>
> That scope for the AHG seems fine with me; is the first bar of several
> that a proposal has to clear, and it's a light weight one. Anyone on the
> internet can sign up, read the proposals, and post an objection if they
> wish.
>
> Of course, one will benefit from access to the bulk of discussions and
> change proposals authoring history, and one might be inclined to be more
> ornery about proposals that haven't been subject to public development and
> collaborative authoring and just show up a fait accompli.
>
> You say "happen" in present tense, but I don't see any recent activity in
> these private forums.
>
> We can just not use them any more.
>
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