[MPEG-OTSPEC] And another comment - Re: Draft AHG report

Vladimir Levantovsky vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com
Sun Oct 15 21:41:22 CEST 2023


Can you please point to a specific part of the AHG report where claims of
hinting for composite glyphs / cubic outlines are made and/or discussed? I
am not sure I understand what portion of the report text you'd rather see
removed.

Thank you,
Vladimir



On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 8:39 PM Hin-Tak Leung <htl10 at users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:

> Another comment - I am also skeptical of claims of hinting "just works /
> seems to work" for composite glyphs and cubic curves, and I'd prefer those
> removed, if not heavily qualified/YMMV'ed.
>
> Fact is, readability is a language-specific matter.
>
> There is a GSoC project on auto-hinting this summer, and weeks and months
> of discussions on freetype-devel was just on how to avoid the tilde on some
> characters getting flattened to a bar at any resolution. If necessary,
> gives the tilde an extra exaggerated wiggle. This sort of consideration is
> important to some language, but probably not Arabic where diacritics are
> largely optional. This kind of work will have to change/adapt for cubic
> curves.
>
> I don't have a concrete example for hangul/CJK composites off hand, but I
> would say that, there are typographic elements which helps native readers
> distinguish closely similar glyphs, which will be lost in heavily re-used
> composites. A poor analogy might be a "u" and a "v" shape happening in a
> larger glyph - like "CU", "CV". Native reader definitely want to
> distinguish a rounded bottom U from a pointed bottom V, for the word mean
> short for "see you" vs "curriculum vitae/resum'e".
> Well, that's another example where the diacritics is important: the French
> origin word resum'e and the English verb resume. Anyway, may be I'll be
> able to come up with a better / more appropriate hangul/CJK example if I
> think a bit more.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 15 October 2023 at 11:06:57 BST, Vladimir Levantovsky <
> vladimir.levantovsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Please see attached the text of the AHG report I plan to present tomorrow
> during the opening SC29/WG meeting Plenary. This report is based on the AHG
> meeting summaries that were previously distributed on this list.
> If you have any comments, please send them by the end of the day today.
>
> Thank you,
> Vladimir
>
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